Discussion

Paul Krugman

jruohonen: From the liked NBER study:"Between 58 and 68 percent of citations to Chinese publications come from other Chinese publications, even for breakthrough work. This contrasts sharply with other regions, where cross-border citation rates are substantially higher."https://www.nber.org/digest?page=1&perPage=50

3eb7988a1663: Surely English fluency is somewhat relevant.

jmclnx: China is incensing funding, US is cutting funding so this will only help China

rootusrootus: [delayed]

MrGilbert: I cannot help but wonder how many decades it will take the U.S. to recover from the damage that the current administration is causing, both economically and in trust on a global scale. While in no way comparable, as a German, that topic feels familiar non the less - and to this day, it's a long and rocky road.

andretti1977: … “Ignorance is strength” might was well be an official MAGA motto…

zb3: The more Chinese publications, the bigger share of their citation rates, right?

wileydragonfly: NIH grant funding is still down about 35% and they’re lying about it. They’re not updating Reporter fully so the director has been able to obfuscate it. Graduate programs are reducing admissions and I imagine fewer potential scientists are interested in the PhD path given “current situation.” So I imagine it’s going to take several “good” years to undo what’s been done.

bestouff: I'm not even sure the Nazi regime was that much anti-science.

nis0s: I hate that it happened because of a political reason, and many topics affected were unnecessarily targeted, but it’s 1000% true that many labs were overfunded, and accumulated resources which were essentially spent on ego bullshit. There need to be more cuts and selective funding of research labs, in general. Sadly, funding R1 does not guarantee that you’re going to get anything meaningful from that research as a non-trivial number of PIs just used excessive funding to bloat up their numbers to appear politically important, like middle managers at FAANG. So, essentially creating an adult daycare with no regards to output or impact. This needs to stop, and spending needs to be allocated responsibly. Lab impact needs to be assessed on regular (2-yr seems reasonable) basis, and then funding needs to be diverted to new or better players.

PigeonHolePncpl: Economically? No idea.Global trust? I'd give it 20-40 years.

readthenotes1: How is this affecting the replicability crisis?

karmakurtisaani: A lot of great scientists left Europe because of them tho.

burnt-resistor: True. And they forced some scientists to work for them to build terror and WMDs. This regime doesn't even want technological supremacy in many other domains like drones and counter-drones except maybe hypersonic missiles and unworkable pocket battleships.

burnt-resistor: Much of the damage is irreparable. Organizations that no longer exist have lost workers, other stakeholders, resources, and trust permanently.. and in cases like USAID and healthcare, people have suffered permanent injuries or died.These clueless assholes don't care about or understand the implications of the damage they've caused... they're gangs of criminals rapists and pillagers scorching the earth and leaving chaos and destruction in their wake.

jaybrendansmith: Again, I don't understand why this post is flagged. Don't hackers care about science? Isn't this newsworthy?

jmye: On a board largely populated by people who aspire to work at places like Meta and OpenAI, and who idolize Musk and Thiel, you’re surprised that anything critical of deep right bullshit is flagged? Really?