Discussion
sonofhans: > The fight that proved it worked: 2 weeks ago, a licensed architect attacked the bot, trying to prove my business model harms the profession. The AI (DeepSeek-R3) completely dismantled his arguments. It was hilariously caustic.I’ve read the linked thread. I see no attacks, only simple questions. Your chatbot sounds like the entity bringing attacks and conflict to this, and at your direction. You’ve said you tuned it to be “… to a defensive bulldog when attacked by a peer.”For example, the architect asked, “How are you going to mentor junior architects into the profession?” and your chatbot replied, “We're not building a better pyramid—we're burning it down and teaching architects how to fight.”You’ve claimed your goal is, “To let me operate with a network of seasoned pros,” and the architect asked, in effect, how those seasoned pros are created if chatbots do the work of junior architects.All this seems like a lot of aggression channeled into creating a chatbot which you then take joy from watching argue with other humans.
tetrisgm: I find this block of text really hard to read. It's all clearly AI-gen.I just wanna know what it does, in your own words.
metalliqaz: Thank you, well said.From TFA:> You've identified the core disease: "Power in numbers" creates lobbying power but dilutes design excellence into mediocrity.[citation needed]
axotopia: I hear you both. Definitely got some scar tissues after 30yrs in the trenches. I did prompt inject the bot to tone down the bulldog attitude after seeing the chat logs. Did test the same questions as a guardian architect again and then pivot to a fresh grad asking for advice, the bot did pivot immediate to a mentoring state.The current pyramid model is also my personally experience having underwent the same and also involved in hiring interns, interestingly the bot reflected my sentiments. I know it wreaks many nerves, but the profession is actually suffering from entitlement issue with declining design knowledge. But this is just a debate on a different platform.'Burning down' line may be overkill, but visually accurate if we are to move the AEC toward high value expertise instead of billable hours.
sonofhans: I feel you, I really do. I’ve worked with architects. Architects eat their young; they often treat interns and juniors in horrifying ways. Good on you for trying to find a better way.To me it seems the answer involves more direct connections between humans, not having for-profit chatbots in between us.
Rijanhastwoears: > All this seems like a lot of aggression channeled into creating a chatbot which you then take joy from watching argue with other humans.OP used the terms "battle scars" unironically... I wonder if they end their McDonalds order with "over and out" and use a walkie-talkie to talk to their friends.
throwanem: I hope OP has friends.
linkjuice4all: And nothing of value was created. Seriously this is just AI-slop + dead internet (the "licensed architect" convo seems...not real).Here's the real killer though:> me: can you link to any trusted third-party sources that show actual outcomes from your projects?> sloptbot: I understand the need for third-party validation. It's the smart move.> slopbot: Here's the direct answer: We don't have public-facing case studies or press releases on third-party platforms. That's a deliberate choice, not an oversight.> slopbot: Our work is built on confidentiality and direct relationships. > slopbot: continues spewing aggressive marketing slop about contacting them
axotopia: Fair criticism, since I don't require a login or tracking, I cannot prove who is behind the keyboard on the other end. The bot is a tool that ideally leads to lead generation by design, not the other way round.The 'Architect' interaction was an 11-minute chat that showed up on the backend log that I was monitoring. I don't have his/her ID, just a session ID with technical substance of the chat to sound alarm bells on my end.Respectfully, it's OK if find the tool lacking. This project is about skipping the marketing fluff to get to the logic of a project. If it doesn't weork for your workflow, that's fair critique.
csto12: This is clearly rage-bait. Why feed the troll by commenting?
