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Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two Recovery Mode reboots to uninstall
b00ty4breakfast: this reminds me, I still have an ancient version of iTunes on my old win7 box because something got corrupted at some point and now I can't uninstall it.Not being able to simply remove a program like you would any other program is next level evil in my book.
saagarjha: I feel like the complaints here are…not really Samsung's fault?> So I’ve dug around and found a cleanup script buried six folders deep inside the app bundle. Let’s try to run it:> sh ~/Library/'Application Support'/Samsung/'Samsung Magician'/SamsungMagician.app/Contents/Resources/CleanupMagician_Admin_Mac.sh> It ran. And my kitty exploded. Sweet kitty overflowed. Hundreds - literally hundreds - of lines of chown: Operation not permitted.I mean, if you read on, you'll find that most of the things that were removed were from system folders that are owned by root? Presumably this was run without sudo…> I rm -rf every Samsung folder I could find. The Preferences. The Caches. The LaunchAgents. The LaunchDaemons. The kernel extensions. The crash reports.…I mean, that's where you put your stuff on macOS. Would you prefer that they picked some non-standard location you had to dig up?> Package receipts in /private/var/db/receipts/ (Samsung left its receipts behind like a burglar leaving a bunch of turds in the living room)This is again for your benefit so you know what was installed on your system> Cached processes in /private/var/folders/7v/<your username hash>/C/ (yes, Samsung is in there too)That's getconf DARWIN_USER_CACHE_DIR> I shut down my Mac. Held the power button. Booted into Recovery Mode. Opened Terminal. Ran csrutil disable. Rebooted. Opened Terminal. Deleted the kernel extensions.That's just how kernel extensions are on Apple silicon
Barbing: I have a modern application from the macOS App Store in a permanent update purgatory. I dared drag to delete it, now it won’t update nor open. But an update is always shown available!
malfist: This type of writing is very grating on the nerves. It's not AI slop, but it feels the same way, where AI slop is trying to trick you into thinking every sentence is the pinnacle insight of human endeavor of all history, this writing stops every single sentence to say "Are you outraged? I'm outraged! You should be outraged! This is outrageous!"Especially when the outrage is that the user didn't follow instructions to use sudo on an uninstaller that needs to touch root owned files.
zhongwei2049: 18 steps and two reboots just to remove a disk utility. My favorite part is that they probably had a PM sign off on this flow at some point.
atoav: [delayed]
0xAFFFF: Parts of that article are just downright terrible.First, the criticism of Electron is moot. Yes it's not sleek, but it's sufficient. This app is not supposed to be used heavily on a daily basis. Run it once to setup your drive, run it a few months later for a firmware upgrade or a quick health check and that's all. And when you had a taste of the absolute UX monsters some hardware vendors can produce on the software side, really an Electron app feels nice.But it gets more ridiculous. Embedded fonts? God forbid companies enforce their own design guidelines in their software. Translations? Fuck non-English speakers. User guide with screenshots? The audacity.
calin2k: samsung magician managed to help me clone a hdd to a ssd on windows with ease
greazy: I completely disagree. I loved this article. I could feel the authors frustration and disdain for the software.It was funny and helpful.
raincole: It's just ragebait. The gold:> Localization files for every language on EarthYeah because English is the only one language that matters. How about we remove UTF-8 and go back to ASCII. How could one frame this as a bad thing?> Help documentation with 40+ screenshots in 10 languagesSeriously how could Americentric this author be? Even physical products have multi-language manuals today.
close04: When all else fails, read the manual. It’s a tried and tested practice among experts worth their salt.
kgeist: >This type of writing is very grating on the nerves. It's not AI slop, but it feels the same wayThis one does look like AI slop: The script doesn’t stop, doesn’t catch the errors, doesn’t try plan B. It just keeps slamming its head into the wall for every file and then finishes like “yep, all done boss.” You've got the usual rule of three overused by LLMs ("doesn't stop, doesn't catch, doesn't try"), then immediately followed by a random metaphor no one asked for (LLMs love those too).It's probably human-written, but run through some AI tool to "improve" the writing perhaps. Or maybe AI slop now influences the way humans write articles?
internet2000: I hate how Mac OS makes it harder to delete than to add stuff to system folders. I forgot what was it, but adding something worked with sudo, removing it required disabling sip. Is there a reason for that?
kvuj: > I feel like the complaints here are…not really Samsung's fault?I don't know man, the last time I uninstalled an app on macOS, all I had to do was drag it to the trash. If you find this procedure sane, then I don't know what to tell you.Samsung is responsible of how users interact with their app, including its install and removal.
