Discussion
Phelinofist: Spiegel recently did a video on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuwRrqM6H1M
alexmocki: This reads less like “hacking” and more like an optimized business.Clear specialization, outsourcing, and reinvestment — very similar to how startups scale.
kgeist: Found his record in Russia's official company registry. This is what he officially does as an entepreneur: 56.10 — Restaurant activities and food delivery services 47.23 — Retail sale of fish, crustaceans, and mollusks in specialized stores 47.25.12 — Retail sale of beer in specialized stores 47.25.2 — Retail sale of soft drinks in specialized stores 47.29.39 — Retail sale of other food products in specialized stores, not included in other groups 68.20 — Lease and management of own or leased real estate Money is reinvested into selling beer and fish :) Interestingly, he registered all that in 2019, just when the ransoms started.
ivan_gammel: Classic money laundering.
nailer: Feels odd for an infosec blog to use 'doxxing' this way. Doxxing is generally considered to be unethical exposure of personal information.Identifying a criminal is ethical.
cucumber3732842: >Identifying a criminal is ethical.This outsourcing of one's morals to the state is excessive even by already high western white collar internet standards.Now, make no mistake, these guys are up to no good and probably should be identified and prosecuted, but to just declare that a bad thing is now good because government is doing it is basically an abdication of one's moral compass. At best this is still a bad thing but a necessary one because all the other options are worse. Like shooting someone in self defense, or putting someone in a cage for doing sufficiently bad things.
wswin: not the state, but the law
wat10000: "Identifying a criminal" doesn't imply that it's done by the government, and being done by the government doesn't imply that it's done to a criminal. This comment seems like quite a leap.
jstanley: It's the government who defines what "criminal" means.
wat10000: Not necessarily. I'm free to make my own determination on the matter.
KingOfCoders: Putting someone on a (most) wanted list is "doxing"?[Edit] "An international search is underway for Daniil Maksimovich SHCHUKIN on suspicion of numerous counts of gang-related and commercial extortion using ransomware to the detriment of commercial enterprises, public facilities, and institutions."
moomin: Yeah, I’m not okay with this. Doxxing is a term with an extremely negative connotation and is often done to people who, bluntly, weren’t hiding or doing anything wrong. The correct term for the same act here is either “accuse” or “unmask”.
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layer8: > Identifying a criminal is ethical.I agree that “doxxing“ is being misused in TFA, but criminals have privacy rights like anyone else. Violating these rights requires specific justification, it’s not automatically ethical.
KingOfCoders: They put the person on a wanted list.
Yokohiii: Certainly, criminals also have a right to privacy. However, the limited publication of personal data of criminals by law enforcement is generally a legally legitimate measure. Doxxing, on the other hand, is generally a process that violates the fundamental right to privacy.
cucumber3732842: >criminals>law>legallyYou keep using these words but it causes circular logic as those are all defined by the same entity that is acting unilaterally.The action the government took was not a "good" action by any moral standard. But it was perhaps the least worse auction. Can't just whisk people off the street in a foreign country or drone them over such matters, those options would be worse.
embedding-shape: > Putting someone on a (most) wanted list is "doxing"?No, if they just put UNKN on the most wanted list, then it wouldn't be doxing. But then they also tie UNKN together with "Daniil Maksimovich Shchukin", and that's the doxxing, regardless or not if it's on a most wanted list.
KingOfCoders: I think this is not how wanted lists work, here in Germany at least. Do they work this way where you are living? The goal of wanted lists in Germany is to find the person the police is searching for to put them in front of a court if the prosecution can make a case.