Discussion
dev1ycan: This is just adding the hidden filters such asbefore:[date]: Finds videos uploaded before a specific date.Example: space exploration before:2020-01-01after:[date]: Finds videos uploaded after a specific date.Example: tech news after:2024-01-01To an UI, right?
awesome_dude: I think that it's a fair title - it takes the "hidden" search terms and brings them to the surface for users.The (default) YouTube search is barely usefulThey have made a search WITH the advanced features availableEverything as advertised (IMO)
throw_m239339: As long I doesn't shove "shorts" or "other people watched" in the result list, it's an improvement. Sometimes the results are so egregious and completely unrelated to the search terms that I feel like youtube wants to piss me off on purpose. I don't want to be searching some quantum physics video and get videos of some barely clothed women in Miami, I fail to see how it is related...
prophesi: One of the first things I do on a new device is install an extension to expose these hidden filters, and to hide recommended videos + redirect the homepage to the subscriptions tab.
bryanhogan: One of the problems with YouTube seach is that they also stop showing you what you searched for after a couple of videos, instead you get the same crap you find on the homepage, which is bewildering.
atum47: I'm not popular enough to write a post about everything that is wrong with YouTube, from recommending the same few videos over and over again in different "categories" to ALL the results of a search being cringe shorts no one wants to see.
wincy: For April Fools Sega released an (actual, real) “Sanic the Hedgeheg” t-shirt and I wanted to see if there was anything about it on YouTube. YouTube assumed I meant “sonic” and it was impossible to correct it and say “no I’m actually searching for this dumb meme”. It just assumes everyone who uses YouTube is really dumb I guess. (I bought the shirt by the way and am excited to get it lol)
nevernothing: You're basically right, it's just a UI for the old search filters, at least for the ones that still work today.
cure_42: What extension exposes the hidden filters???
loveparade: The whole Youtube experience has gotten so bad over the years. I love the youtube content, but I wish I didn't have to deal with the UI/UX and recommendations that the YT app forces on me.Annoying Shorts. I'm trying to keep my watch history clean to "steer" recommendations, but YT keeps adding things to it that I didn't actually watch just because I happened to hover my mouse over a video, etc.
prophesi: You could probably vibe-code it if it doesn't exist. You're literally just adding extra parameters to the search request. Hard part is creating the interface for it. Saw more options looking for Firefox extensions than Chrome for this, though that might be expected.
lucb1e: > One of the first things I do on a new device is install an extension to ...< [which one]> vibe-code it if it doesn't existSo it doesn't exist? I don't understand what I'm reading. (Plus the suggestion to create more slopware)
prophesi: > You're literally just adding extra parameters to the search request> Saw more options looking for Firefox extensions than Chrome for this, though that might be expected.Sorry if I wasn't clear enough in my comment that it's a very trivial feature.
ddtaylor: If anyone has a good solution to YouTube destroying all value of the Subscriptions page I am open ears. Until recently my consumption of YT was basically to go to my subscriptions page and see what new content had been released since I last watched YT.
SilverElfin: Really wish there was an alternative. Especially to the manipulation of it all by YouTube (demonetization and other tactics).
throw7: Just asking: Is there an open source project that I can self-host that can organize my current subscriptions into separate groups/categories and make things easy to view/hide/digest?Many moons ago, I could hover and hide a video I didn't want to see in my feed with a single click. Best UX user feature evar... it was gone in a week or two I feel.I'm kinda ashamed to say I have multiple youtube accounts to keep my sanity, but yeah.
dbbk: It works perfectly fine.
6thbit: I still can’t believe they don’t let you search videos within a channel for example.Or filter out music playlist from video ones.Or search within transcripts.It’s peak irony a company owned by the search overlord.
msephton: Just put the term in quotes "sanic the hedgeheg" ignore the suggestions and press enter to see the real results.
thfuran: Google no longer cares much about quotes. Sometimes it’ll take them seriously and sometimes not.
QuantumNomad_: I was curious after reading your comment and searched for sanic meme tshirt in the YouTube app. One result looked highly relevant, posted 4 days ago. It was a short, not a normal video mind you. Titled Official “Sanic” merchandise and having a picture of sanic and some dude’s face. Most of the rest of the results were from different dates, several ranging to years ago. But a lot of those other ones seemed to be about meme sanic as well at least.I didn’t click on any of them to verify, lest YouTube decides that it should replace my whole YouTube home page with sonic fandom and sanic memes :P
atomicfiredoll: Things like FreeTube and NewPipe let you keep a subscription list, even if you watch the videos elsewhere.Using them can be a pain with the whole cat and mouse thing, but at least it's something (for now... I wouldn't be shocked if google was partially gunning for projects like NewPipe specifically with the Android app installation changes.)
jeffbee: That's ... exactly what the subscriptions feed does right now?
gbnwl: You can search videos within a channel, go to the channel page and look for the magnifying glass all the way at the end of the nav bar that hasHome | Videos | Shorts | Playlists | Posts | *Magnifying glass here*Well at least in browser its there, I can't find it on mobile for whatever reason.
VenezuelaFree: Search is the reason I stopped watching youtube, I used to view and discover so many nice stuff in there, tutorials, new hobbies, new music, new creators with different interests, etc but now it's pretty much impossible to find, you are forced to watch the 3 top videos, some 3 ads and then it forces you to watch some other random unrelated crap, it's so annoying and frustratingIt got so bad that even searching the full tittle of the video doesnt show you that video haha
gsky: on top of that it pushes worst creators (who are the biggest thanks to yt) content.
loveparade: You could manage your subscriptions in an RSS reader, that's what I used to do. Each channel has multiple RSS feeds associated with it for different types of videos (live, vod, etc).
KomoD: > I still can’t believe they don’t let you search videos within a channel for example.Uh, yeah, they do.https://www.youtube.com/@PuddleOfMuddTV/search?query=blurry
storus: Cable TV->enshittification->YouTube to the rescue->enshittification->???
storus: I recently decided to download a bunch of playlists using Stacher and host them on a local JellyFin instance, e.g. Stanford lectures for a bunch of classes like CS25 or CS326 I wanted to review. Whenever I find a link to an interesting YouTube video, I just download that way and put it on the server to watch later (have a single cmd line for that).
RRRA: Yeah the only reason I still use YouTube is because μBlock Origin still works great.
cj00: Yeah searching your history is so terrible too I ended up making a custom database that takes the also horrible Takeout output and parses it into a SQLite db. I end up relying on it when I remember some video I started watching weeks ago but can’t remember where it was anymore.
try-working: you can use lurkkit.com to build your own chronological youtube feed with only your subscriptions
bilegeek: Can't remember where I got them, but there's some uBO rules that really help on that front: youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Related to your search/i)) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Related to your searches/i)) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/From related searches/i)) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/People also watched/) youtube.com###contents > ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/For you/) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Watch again/i)) youtube.com##ytd-horizontal-card-list-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Searches related to/i)) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Learn while you\'re at home/i)) youtube.com##ytd-horizontal-card-list-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope youtube.com###secondary > .ytd-two-column-search-results-renderer youtube.com###contents > .ytd-secondary-search-container-renderer.style-scope youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/Previously watched/) Also got some other rules from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44332976This all shouldn't be necessary, but alas...
perching_aix: Author must clearly never use porn sites like xvideos or PornHub, if they think YouTube's search is what "barely works".
dugite-code: Yes any RSS reader works for this task.There are two types of channel RSS feedshttps://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=<CHANNEL_ID>And the olderhttps://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?user=<username>Youtube used to have an opml export button but there are a few github projects that convert the youtube subscription csv that dumps out of the account data export.Edit: If you want to filter out shorts using the selfhosted application rssbridge allows you to do this.
userbinator: It’s peak irony a company owned by the search overlord....whose search engine has itself become noticeably less of a search engine and more of a recommendation/sheeple-herding engine over time.
eieio: I made a little TUI last month for searching within a channel! It supports before: / after:, fuzzy/exact/regex matching, lets you order by upload date/views/duration, lets you search over just a video's titles or descriptions, etc: https://github.com/nolenroyalty/yt-browseThe vast majority of my youtube watching is "go to a specific channel and try to find a certain kind of video" so it drives me nuts that youtube channel search is so bad (and afaik you can't search a channel on mobile?). I end up using my tool to find a bunch of videos and get them into my history to watch on my ipad.n.b. my tool downloads all video metadata for a channel and then searches over it locally, so it's pretty slow the first time you search a channel (results are cached for 24 hours though).
throw7: ok thanks!, i never knew there was an rss feed for each channel/users... that does open up solutions.
moralestapia: YouTube search went to absolute trash, same as Gmail, same as Google the search engine.Many time I search for a video I know the title of, letter by letter, in quotes, and it does not show up (at least in the first 50 or so results). Sometimes I think the video might have been deleted, only to find it out later in my bookmarks and realizing this is not the case.Crazy how them being fundamental to what we all know as "the web" nowadays, allows them to get away with being extremely mediocre and oblivious to user's needs.
phyzix5761: I want to be able to search youtube videos for specific content. Like a middle aged man talking about football who is wearing a light blue shirt and holding a sports bottle. With AI we should be able to do that but maybe the compute cost is currently too high. I envision it sort of like a SQL for video search.
storus: I am forced to use Yandex just to find stuff Google or DDG never shows anymore.
carefree-bob: Interesting. Do you have some examples?
nothercastle: Google of today would absolutely get steamrolled by any of the search engines it used to compete against. Now granted the web of today is mostly a toxic waste pile vs more of a cluttered basement back then.
extraduder_ire: I've had ctrl+f work for searching within the transcript on the page recently. I assumed it wouldn't due to lazy loading, but was surprised because the video I tried it on was quite long.filmot.com exists too (found it on here, currently can't get past the cloudflare captcha to double check), but I have no idea how much of youtube's transcripts it has archived.
owlboy: I desperately want someone to interview someone at YouTube and directly ask about this bullshit and get them to say it’s all in the name of increasing watch time at all costs.
deadbeef7f: My subscription feed now has a row of 3 videos labeled "priority", then a row of 3 videos labeled "latest", then a row of "Shorts," then it appears to continue on with the "latest" but there's no label.This is from memory so I may have got something wrong. And I could be an A/B test subject as this has been new as of a few weeks. There's also a "More..." fold or two in there.This pattern does not represent how I use the product. I do not watch shorts and I don't know how or why they mark things as a priority. I want to know what's newest and the time ordered list being deprioritized in the UI and fractured makes that worse.
owlboy: They see those hovers as attention. And they likely calculate how long you linger. The lingering tells them a lot when you are infinite scrolling on other platforms.They would love to have full on eye tracking. So the next best thing is a cursor. (Even though I’d agreed with anyone who says it’s a poor signal.)
ddtaylor: The subscriptions page was changed about a month ago. It now shows the videos in the top as "Relevant", which includes a list of videos from the ~12 days that are being suggested to you. After that is a real list of chronologically ordered videos, but videos are not listed twice. This means if the video appears in the first list (as "relevant") then it will not be shown in the second list.The end result is that the subscriptions page now shows videos "in order", but the order is wrong. My current subscription page shows a video from 14 hours ago, then a video from 9 days ago, then one from 5 days ago, then 6 days ago, and then 1 day ago.Honestly, I feel like `yt-dlp` does a better job of this with this command: yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser chrome --flat-playlist https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions
tyrust: > you are forced to watch the 3 top videos, some 3 ads and then it forces you to watch some other random unrelated crap, it's so annoying and frustratingBrother, you are the one choosing the videos.
jdprgm: Yeah Youtube search is mediocre, though I feel like search has broadly declined across the entire web on all sorts of apps and services I use. Not to mention all the actual "search engines" feeling less and less powerful every year. I don't get it.
