Discussion
YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they’ll be unskippable
nerdsniper: I just pay for YT Premium. I’m genuinely curious why that option is so controversial? Happy to get people’s thoughts.So I never see any ads and I feel like I get enough value for what I pay. It even helps me skip in-content ads with a single click.
pirates: > So I never see any ads> helps me skip in-content adsSo you get ads still! Whether or not they are from YouTube or the video creator is irrelevant. I thought paying was supposed to supplant needing to advertise to me during the actual video.
YCpedohaven: I pay for YT premium, but it’s less because of the ads, and more because of the stupid restriction of not being allowed background play if my phone is locked.
vizzier: Alas, tubers feel the need to add sponsorships these days through either greed or reduced google revenue. Premiums "skip frequently skipped section" is about as easy as it can be to skip over them without blocking them entirely, short of using sponsorblock.I'm not sure where the legality lies with them being able to skip it automatically if you're a premium user, I'd imagine their uploaders wouldn't be happy though.
yifanl: You think explicitly highlighting that you're in the market segment that's happy to pay for online services will mean you will never see paid ads for online services again?
Razengan: Has anyone ever actually purchased anything because you saw an ad for it?
ryankrage77: This used to work for free, they went out of their way to disable it so they could charge for it.
legitronics: I also pay for yt premium.Most people do not seem to like pay to play, pay to “win”, etc and this falls either very close or in that category.The long term economics seem questionable to me. Google can always turn up the heat a bit more with ads, charge more for the ads, play more of them, etc when they need to be more profitable. The only way they make more from premium subscribers is charging more and they will lose people each time they do. I guess technically they could make more if premium watchers viewed less content but there’s a pretty hard floor and I suspect the economics of it are much like soda fountains.I’m afraid ultimately if premium becomes too large of a user base Google would need to turn it into an “ad-lite” experience to increase profits. Then we’re in an even worse place.
steve_adams_86: > I’m afraid ultimately if premium becomes too large of a user base Google would need to turn it into an “ad-lite” experienceI wouldn't hesitate to cancel my subscription and stop using the platform at that point. Life can go on without YouTube.
ray023: Why are people even so dumb to use TV apps for a fucking TV? Just connect a "computer" to the TV and play YouTube with a mouse and KB and with Brave and Sponsor Block. If they ban adblockers and sponsor blocks there will be AI solutions that let you cut the ads out in the future.Nobody should use shitty TV apps. It's like more convenient and practical to have some kind of PC like device attached to the TV for 100 other reasons as well. Thy are feeding this shit only to the dumb mass consumers who have no clue about anything."Just pay for YT premium" so that an evil megacorp is using your money against you, no, thanks! Donate to creators you like as directly as they allow it. They are also dumb and let Patreon or whatever suck large percentages off their donations for whatever retarded reasons.
mrguyorama: Because Google does not build a platform that is beneficial to the creators who make actually good and productive and positive content.I don't want give Google money for building a Mr Beast platform. I want the stuff Nebula does.So I pay for Nebula.Paying an advertising company to not show you ads doesn't make that company not an advertising company, and the problem is being an advertising company. It's corrosive to society and people.
SirFatty: YouTube specifically? Yes.
downboots: It's a ransom
xedrac: Maybe this will help people kick their doom scrolling habit.
downboots: That's just doom scrolling on a different axis
clpm4j: YT Premium is my favorite monthly subscription - probably the highest value software that I pay for.
lofaszvanitt: Good, less youtube, more free time.
rolph: google is seeing an uptick in viewing with a smartTV, so they think that means family time in the livingroom, thus 70s style TV is the model of the day.have they considered home office, phones are just too small, and studios where you watch the screen and perform the "how too" from across the room are getting to be a thing [mancaves, shesheds].i would definately have a curated, edited feed of YTz to a group viewing location, rather than a raw stream.
add-sub-mul-div: Since 1999 we've had the DVR and commercials have been effectively skippable if you want to avoid them. This is worse than that. Not having the freedom and control to seek through the video stream ("unskippable") was innovated by the streaming takeover.
rolph: [delayed]