Discussion
imaginationra: I love wiggly paint(got it from your itch.io so I know its the real one) Keep up the great work and thank you.
rogual: Good article, and I feel your pain. Sometimes it feels like there's no point creating anything anymore, because shitty people will just steal it.In case you're interested, though, I just wanted to point out that there are things you can do.In my experience, Google does respond to requests to scrub infringing sites from their results if you submit their Copyright Claim form. They even give you a dashboard with the status of your claims. Probably worth trying your luck if you can be bothered.Also, many of the theives have X and Bluesky accounts, and I don't believe either of these services let users censor replies to them.There's also the payment platforms that are collecting money for your stolen work on behalf of these guys. They might be interested to hear about what's going on.Then there's the hosting companies themselves, of course, hosting the infringing websites.It's a pain, and it would be better if you could just create stuff and people weren't shitty, but we live in a fallen world and sometimes you gotta defend yourself. Up to you, of course, and I totally get it if you don't have the energy, but I've been through the same thing and you do have some power.
Upvoter33: Yes I’ve had to do this but it does work. Unfortunately it’s a constant cost to have to look for stuff like this and then do the work.
drdrek: There is a reason games and software have moved to the client server architecture even when it doesn't really makes sense. Its the only way to maintain copyright.You can hate it, but for the creative types your options are: Assume it fails and no one knows about it / Assume it succeeds get stolen / build it on the server side
cl0ckt0wer: With the amount of piracy that went on with the early 2000's videogames (doom!) I'm surprised anyone made money.
furyofantares: I have no doubt LLMs are involved in this these days and make the problem worse, but this problem extends back in time too. During the Wordle craze there were tons of people making variations on Wordle. Anyone who's game got at all popular would find search results covered in sites that either just iframe embed their game, or copied the game and took out the credits.I always register a TLD for my games and I think that might be why my games have always managed to stay at the top of the results, but they are followed by loads of people embedding the game, look at the search results for xordle for example. Many other authors would share their game on github pages or replit or whatever and were not so lucky.
cl0ckt0wer: Yeah, I have a few domains that I keep around for these type of projects. If it doesn't go anywhere I just reuse it.
cl0ckt0wer: (it's never gone anywhere )
dylan604: It also means everyone is on updated versions of software, or easier for devs to A/B different aspects. Anti-piracy is not the only reason
socalgal2: I'm confused. The post rants about LLMs but says the project is open source and most of the copies are v1.3. What does LLMs have to do with this?
cousin_it: There's an interesting "AI alignment" angle here. An actually aligned AI would refuse lots of users' requests, like requests to write scam emails or fill the internet with slop. It would optimize its actions for human flourishing. This explains why the leading labs will never release any AI that's anywhere close to aligned. They'll release AI which is good for their bottom line and for the bottom line of the client. Basically, commercial incentives say AI should happily screw over anyone who isn't an AI company or its client.
badsectoracula: Interestingly enough, i had a kind of similar "problem" (not that i see it as a problem, just a bit unfortunate).About ~16 years ago i wrote a scripting language i called LIL[0] (which, like the author, i also hooked up in a HyperCard-like program[1][2]), meaning Little Interpreted Language, but whenever i search for it on Google or DDG, my site never shows up - instead, both show a GitHub repository[3] that someone made and hasn't been updated in 15 years (and has outdated links) and sometimes the Tcl wiki page about it[4] (which at least points to the correct homepage) or even Rosetta code[5] since sometime added LIL to it some time ago.Amusingly DDG's AI summary does describe my LIL but it links to the outdated GitHub repo and the Tcl wiki page. Then if you click the "More" button it describes Beyond Loom's Lil. The "Explore more" links however do a mix of both (one even mixes both languages in the same response :-P).[0] http://runtimeterror.com/tech/lil/[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8CYosAIIJw[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshZHDDruAE[3] https://github.com/wsxiaoys/lil[4] https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/lil[5] https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:LIL
thot_experiment: You should consider reading the article as everything you talk about is addressed almost directly by the author.
socalgal2: Maybe you should go read the HN comment guidelineshttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html> Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article?I get that it's frustrating - that's what open source allows though. I used to run a blog. I ran a few websites, open sourced, that were similar in a general way (users can make stuff on the site and share it others). I found the site duplicated. In fact it's still duplicated to this day. Oh well.
hananova: This is why I’ve recently modified my git forge to return subtly and maliciously buggy code if it detects it is being accessed by an LLM.I won’t link it, and I won’t do a write up to retain effectiveness, but I have already found at least 3 vibe coded slop projects on GitHub that include my deliberately buggy code verbatim, and it makes me very happy.
spacebuffer: this sounds very effective. I obviously understand you wouldn't want to explain how LLM detection works, but would it be possible to know which forge your using?
hananova: Self-hosted, semi-popular project. The forge itself runs two unmodified copies of forgejo, which one you get served depends on if you trip the LLM detection.There are some obvious give-aways to avoid bad stuff happening to people that just happen to trip the detection, but the escape hatch hasn’t yet been clicked by anyone, so it probably hasn’t had a false positive yet.
mghackerlady: unless you're talking about doom 3 (which I can't really speak on), doom is from the 90s and was shareware
