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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán concedes defeat after ‘painful’ election result
tomalaci: Amazing news for EU! If Tisza can get supermajority after votes are counted then they can also easily reverse a lot of constitutional corruption in Hungary done by Orban.
lysace: Welcome back to Europe, Hungary.
jacquesm: Time will tell. Keep in mind that his successor was part of Orban's party in the past.
flopsamjetsam: I don't know much about him, only that he was in the same party. I have heard that he is pro-EU and anti-Russia though, is that true?
chollida1: Sad commentary on the modern world where my first thought was, well good for Orban to concede defeat. Not all current world heads of state have that much maturity.This bodes well for the midterm state of the European union.
mstade: As a fellow European this is the biggest surprise of the election, I thought for sure he'd pull a Trump.
crop_rotation: Pulling a Trump requires a polarized electorate where you are mostly going to have both parties in 48-52% range, with only real fights in few battleground states, and no absurd change in total vote %. Even Trump won't pull a Trump if other party was nearing 2/3rd majority. I am not even sure of what would happen to American politics if a party reaches 2/3rd majority in both houses, a list of long pending reforms might finally become possible.
analog31: Peaceful transition of power is definitely something to cheer about.
lysace: From your perspective as afaik nowadays a Californian progressive: Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
jacquesm: Yes, that's true. But there is enough about Magyar that I don't understand that I'm cautiously optimistic. Though it would be hard to imagine worse than Orban...JD Vance strikes again. I wonder how long it will take US politicians and assorted billionaires to realize that their 'endorsements' will backfire.
orwin: Yes, he basically have the same views, except on Russia. One advantage though is that Orban put his people at the head of Hungary corporations, so maybe that will end and the corruption will be kept at "normal" levels.
Dig1t: Peter Magyar is pro-EU and will likely work to bring Hungary back into "compliance" with EU refugee asylum quotas.The biggest long term impact of this election will likely be that Hungarians become a minority in their own country within a few generations like in the rest of Europe.https://www.epc.eu/publication/closing-the-compliance-gap-in...
crop_rotation: I have not read much about this issue, but I wonder if it is as serious as you are saying why are populations across Europe not voting against it, or they are voting but getting ignored by the rulers?
cmxch: Europhiles happy, Euroskeptics not.
ceejayoz: Gosh, financial support for one of the candidates by an outsider would be horrible, right? https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1163823353301...> My Administration stands ready to use the full Economic Might of the United States to strengthen Hungary’s Economy, as we have done for our Great Allies in the past, if Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and the Hungarian People ever need it. We are excited to invest in the future Prosperity that will be generated by Orbán’s continued Leadership! President DONALD J. TRUMP
bigyabai: Judging by the election results, it was a populist ouster.
stefan_: Also an election system designed for horseback.
dd8601fn: I think it's pretty damn brilliant. I see the failure to maintain it as intended as the real shortcoming.
cjbenedikt: "...will take US politicians and assorted billionaires to realize that their 'endorsements' will backfire..." They may have to switch off their AI and start using their own brain - should they still have one, that is.
ahofmann: Sadly so. In the last decades it was just normal for almost all countries. It's kind of maddening how low Trump lowered the bar for politicians.
tromp: If anyone can bring about enough disappointment and disgust for 2/3 of the population to vote Democrat in the next election, it is Trump.
workfromspace: Happy for Hungary!Unfortunatlely, half democracies (ie representative) are open to abuse and give too much power to presidents or governments. Combined with populism, lobbying and corruption, it allows people like Orban to stay in power for a long time. Glad it's over.
jacquesm: Pro-EU: probably. Anti-Russia: also probably.For both: I prefer to see it all rather than to assume it will be fine. Oh, and we still have Fico to deal with. But at least Hungarians have chosen against Orban that in itself gives some hope. Those leaked phone calls that were made public in the last weeks were very damning, I always assumed that such stuff was going on but to have hard proof is on another level.I wonder what they're going to do with the participants. And what Orban's plans are now that he's in the opposition. I would not count him out just yet, he's got Putin's backing and you can bet they'll work overtime to try to destabilize Magyar's government. The rot goes pretty deep and it will take a lot of work to undo all that damage.
jacquesm: Can we please stop with the 'great replacement theory' drivel?You seem to want to drop that into conversations even though it is patent bullshit.Thank you.> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47666504> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47521089
salawat: Shhhh. Don't correct your enemy while they are busy making mistakes. Just smile and wave.
comrade1234: Flagged due to sour grapes.
Symbiote: My guess is it's flagged by Americans (it's their daytime) who don't realize the significance of this result to the EU and potentially the EU's response to the war in Ukraine.
salawat: You know, I took a second look at it, and weirdly enough, I can't vouch it for some reason. That's odd. Grats to the good folks across the pond though! May we be so lucky when next our transition is scheduled!
