Discussion
Scientists discover a surprising way to quiet the anxious mind
Rygian: The "surprising way" is by using a derivate of LSD.I'd argue that the surprise is rather on this: "In clinical trials, a single dose significantly outperformed standard treatments, offering hope to those who have found little relief elsewhere."
analog8374: "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."-Bill Hicks
kykat: It seems like every few weeks there's an article on how drugs are amazing hitting the front-page.
phishin: Tool.
thinkingtoilet: Well... drugs are amazing. They're so amazing people will literally die for them.
kunley: It is tragically funny to consider linking quietness of mind with LSD. It is everything but quiet
OutOfHere: Of course they want to repackage a cheaply synthesized substance at 100-1000x the costs even though the original likely works just as well. That's pharma for you.
kubb: Where do you go when you need to escape but can't actually go anywhere?Inwards. Imagination, media, substances, meditation, solitude.
PowerElectronix: "Side effects were mild or moderatr and included hallucinations..."Yeah....
OutOfHere: No. That is a gross and deliberate mischaracterization in bad faith. Here is the full quote:> Side effects were generally mild or moderate and included hallucinations, visual distortions, nausea, and headache. It's important to note, these were more prevalent using the highest dosage -- which we will not be using since it was found to be no more effective.
mynameisash: In case others don't know, Tool used this quote in their song Third Eye.
LgWoodenBadger: It's more than just a quote, it's a sample of Bill Hicks himself speaking it.
lelanthran: > The "surprising way" is by using a derivate of LSD.What's the difference between a derivate and a derivative?(I'm not being facetious, I'd really rather like to know)
jml7c5: HN has its biases. It comes in waves. For a while the submissions were about intermittent fasting. 15 years ago people were excited about polyphasic sleep. 10 years ago it was all about modafinil. There were a lot of submissions about ketamine for depression, but interest in that seems to have fizzled out.
the-golden-one: Clickbait
tim-projects: I'd argue that the results might not be from the drugs but from the fact that they were heavily monitored by other humans.It's not the drugs that people with high anxiety need, it's people giving them attention and caring for them.These experiments need a control where they just take the drug and they don't have medical staff around.
steve-atx-7600: I’d be afraid of a treatment like this where you’re sort of different after one treatment. From experience taking ssris, I took one one that worked so well that I had to stop taking it because it removed stress to the extent that I wouldn’t get to class on time or get my homework done before deadlines. Eventually I found a medicine that worked for me. But, if there’s a “before” vs “after” one shot treatment, you have to hope the new you is the one you want assuming you could be stuck there permanently.
throwaway12pol: When you have heavy generalized anxiety, you are usually willing to commit to that if it means there is a significant probability of coming out with an improved condition. I had such terrible panic attacks before my treatment with a bunch of different medication that I seriously considered and searched for electroconvulsive therapy and even help from shady religious institutions.
steve-atx-7600: I might have gotten that desperate myself, but I finally found a great physiatrist that gave a shit and was competent. Simply taking Effexor removed my panic attacks without problematic side effects.
throwaway12pol: Yeah, changing psychiatrists also helped me. Unfortunately, I had to change drugs a couple of times and ended up taking multiple ones to end my panic attacks. Those drugs left me with long lasting tremors, even after I've stopped taking them, but the tremors are 10000x better than the panic attacks.