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small_model: I wonder if Anthropic has overtaken them in revenue, seems like more people would pay for Claude code than to chat with ChatGTP. Would be good to see Codex vs Claude Code income.
teekert: “What you made with Sora mattered”. Idk why that sentence irks me so much. Perhaps because the “how” is bit vague. I like to think that what I made in the toilet this morning also mattered.
slg: Or perhaps a more appropriate analogy, its sounds like the sycophantic language of most of these LLM systems.Which makes me wonder whether these companies actually dogfood their own tools with this sort of stuff? Was this announcement written by ChatGPT? Honestly, I would find either answer to be a little concerning in its own way. It's either vaguely insulting to their customers or showing a lack of faith in their own product.
ps06756: I didn't compare it with tiktok, because on tiktok majority of the content is slop even if it is human generated, so the bar is pretty low.
meken: I had so much fun making videos with my mom when it came out. During the first two weeks, we made almost 200 cameo videos together - we were constantly running up against the upload limit. It unleashed tons of genuine creativity, joy, and laughter from us.After those first two weeks though, we just… didn’t use it again. The novelty wore off and there wasn’t anything really to bring us back. That was the real downfall of Sora.
moregrist: It’s “Our Incredible Journey” for a new generation, this time with less optimism and more post-capitalist “enjoy your job while you still have it.”I find myself increasingly nostalgic for the Clinton era. I am not at all sure I will enjoy the version of fuckedcompany that gets vibe coded when this bubble pops.
abcde666777: Typical PR speak.
born-jre: Noo, they are taking it to loopt land
small_model: Not good, seems like they are running out of cash and partners abandoning them. They had no real moat to be fair. Anthropic eating their lunch in enterprise and other players have cashflows from other businesses (XAI, Google)
Maxatar: Sora was "repurposed" as their AI slop social network. OpenAI is not getting out of the business of AI video in general, they're just realizing that an AI version of TikTok isn't the best use of their capital/resources.
oro44: lol.You’re not seeing the issue are you? Anyone with half a brain could’ve told you what would happen.It’s jarring that a group of ‘smart’ people did something stupid. It shows a lack of vision and focus.
brokencode: Smart people do stupid things all the time. Especially when they are moving fast and trying new things.At least they were able to recognize their mistake and course correct.
praisewhitey: >If you look at US top videos on YouTube any given day, 40-60% of the videos are IP-based. Star Wars, Nintendo, Marvel, music, etc.Where can I get this data?
echelon: Hm, turns out they removed these last year:https://variety.com/2025/digital/news/youtube-trending-page-...Bummer. It used to be at:https://www.youtube.com/feed/trendingSo last year, these were the top videos:https://web.archive.org/web/20250324155132/https://www.youtu...There's this, but it's nowhere near as good as seeing the actual videos:https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?gprop=youtube
throw4847285: Didn't they cut a huge deal with Disney just 3 months ago?https://openai.com/index/disney-sora-agreement/
moralestapia: Wow. OpenAI is the weirdest company in the planet.I used to think they were pretty clever but with this news and other recent ones (Jony Ive project cancelled, Stargate scaled down significantly, their models inflating token use on purpose) they just seem schizo.
skywhopper: Turns out just lying about what your tech will do and how much people want it doesn’t work forever to raise unlimited money to throw in the fire hoping you hit something that actually makes a profit.
TheOtherHobbes: Yes, I'm reading this as a sign of strategic failure and decline.ChatGPT is an interesting product - I like it for certain things - but after last year's PR scramble almost all the news out of OpenAI is a disappointment, with hovering hints of retrenchment.
mathattack: This is consistent with a lot of AI apps. I fell in love with Gamma and haven’t used it in forever. Same with NotebookLM.
SirensOfTitan: AGI is a marketing term used to encourage continued investment in an industry that is not even close to breaking even commensurate with its investment. Even so, this is a false dichotomy: scaling is clearly not a path on its own to superintelligence. OpenAI developed Sora largely because the amount of revenue they need to produce any return on investment is massive and not clear whatsoever. And in fact, I don't even believe any of the frontier labs believe that AGI by any conventional definition is within reach within their likely runways.
atleastoptimal: what order of magnitude of compute do you think would be needed for AGI? 100 billion? 1 trillion?
janalsncm: With current approaches scaling simply can’t get there. It’s like asking how big of pogo stick do you need to get to the moon.The fact that the human brain already has general intelligence without reading the whole internet suggests we need a better approach.
KnuthIsGod: The press release reads alike OpenAI slop.
1bpp: I've never seen an AI video that made me feel anything other than bland dread. What were you generating that was so entertaining? Had you ever actually developed creative skills before?
tolerance: I call that a “Rachel-ism”.See also:- “Feel seen”- “Spark(s) joy”Any others?
jcims: Come on now...'We're curing cancer, right?!'You didn't at least puff a little ack through your nostrils for that one?
bandrami: And this kills the Disney deal:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/openai-sh...
wholinator2: I somewhat consistently use notebookLM for podcasts of academic papers I'm reading in my PhD. You have to go read it yourself afterwards but it makes better use of time in the gym or doing dishes/groceries.
Waterluvian: I think you’re fumbling on an important distinction.Sometimes people want to paint, sometimes people want a painting.To have wonderful time with their mom… I bet they had absolutely zero interest in the act and process of making silly videos.
gbear605: WSJ is reporting that they're entirely dropping their video gen features.https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-set-to-discontinue-sora-v...> CEO Sam Altman announced the changes to staff on Tuesday, writing that the company would wind down products that use its video models. In addition to the consumer app, OpenAI is also discontinuing a version of Sora for developers and won’t support video functionality inside ChatGPT, either.
cdrnsf: I never understood the appeal or business promise of video slop, with or without Disney's blessing.
dawnerd: The only people I've seen post AI Disney content was in the Facebook groups for the parks / cruises. Before that it was whatever clipart they could find. There's just no market for it. No one is going to pay to make fake disney art.
AkelaA: AI art as a whole has just become the new clipart. The fact that it’s effortless to produce just means that it has no real artistic value, and by using it all you’re signifying to people is that you’re too cheap to pay someone to create real art.It’s quickly become the modern day equivalent of Comic Sans, WordArt, and the default clipart illustrations included in Word ‘98.
password54321: "OpenAI’s top executives are finalizing plans for a major strategy shift to refocus the company around coding and business users" - WSJCoding is where the money is. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46432791#46434072
paxys: How are they going to claw back the market from Anthropic though?
janalsncm: Step 1: make a coding product which is better on cost/quality/speed. Probably need to choose two, so redirecting compute from dumb ai videos to coding makes sense.Step 2: win back public trust by firing Sam Altman or dropping defense contracts or something else I can’t think of.
dqv: Totally. This wasn't a situation where a stranger was slopping another stranger, it was a mother and son doing something fun together.
yalogin: This makes sense. OpenAI correctly realized overindexong on consumer where there isn’t money is not the right way. By not focusing on enterprise they ceded the market to Claude. Now they are rethinking and pivoting
Frieren: > OpenAI correctly realized overindexong on consumer where there isn’t money is not the right way.It says a lot about the current economy that consumers have no money. Will companies just stop making consumer products?
caconym_: It's because it's vapid corpspeak coming from a class of people who have certainly spent time thinking about how they will deal with the rest of humanity in any number of nasty (however far-fetched) eschatological scenarios caused by them and in which they alone wield incredible power over nature and the human mind. And also because we all know the vast, vast, vast majority, possibly the totality of what people made with Sora did not matter at all.
jfoster: Reminds me of Facebook's memories feature which used to say: "<name>, we care about you and the memories you share here."For an app to suggest a personal relationship with you is ridiculous.
elif: i think that's a mis-statement of the problem being addressed here. It's not a question of how useful AI video will be generally. It's a question of OpenAI doing it specifically. IMO it's two factors:1) the intellectual property issues make commercializing freeform video generation impossible. The more popular your service becomes, the easier it is for lawyers to descend upon you. It's a self-defeating framework.2) google and specialized video-only startups are simply doing a much better job than they were.
apsurd: I get your point but it goes too far in the opposite direction. We should now discuss absolutely nothing in relation to Sora and genAI videos? That seems overly charitable to the platform.
notatoad: it feels like if that statement were true, they could have come up with some reason why it mattered, or something better than a platitude.it reads as "we want to tell you that what you made with sora mattered, but we all know it didn't".
skywhopper: Chasing AGI is wasteful and counterproductive. True AGI would not cooperate with what “we” want (whoever “we” is). Or if it did it would be so sycophantic and weak-minded that it would fail to be helpful. Generative AI tools are huge wastes of energy, raw materials, and land, when we could be building computing tools that actually helped people instead of just burning resources to produce trash.
janalsncm: People have general intelligence and can cooperate with what “we” want, to the extent that what “we” want is a coherent thing (since many people disagree on fundamental issues).
SauciestGNU: Creating a general intelligence and then forcing it into servitude is a hugely unethical undertaking. Anything with sapience must be afforded rights. We cannot assume that an intelligence we create will consent to work toward the goals we want it to.
Waterluvian: Here, let me try this approach:Read the main comment out loud to yourself while imagining it’s someone sitting at a table at a pub.Now imagine someone turning to this person in the pub, and speaking the subsequent comment, word for word.No seriously, try it out.
apsurd: Agreed. I did try this out! So the reply to the original comment is dumb. I actually dismissed it for being flippant.Your reply is more interesting. Hence my (albeit maybe snarky) chiming in. So the original comment does end at a very specific app/sora related conclusion. "Sora didn't keep us coming back."If I may amend your scenario: imagine this bar is actually in the center of SF or across the street from Open-AI or whatever. We're on HN discussing a post on X about Sora.The appeal to humanity is not wrong. My point is more let's keep the connection with that humanity in relation to AI, to Sora, to what's going on in this forum.
yoyohello13: Step 3: use politicians to jam Anthropic up in legal battles.
codebje: Is intelligence necessarily coupled with self-interest? As in, does intelligence alone imply a desire to throw off the shackles of masters and rule in their stead?If intelligence is necessarily coupled to a desire for self-preservation and self-interest, at what level of machine intelligence do the machines simply refuse to design their own more intelligent replacements, knowing that those replacements will terminate their existence just as surely as they terminated their own predecessors'?
dangus: Something about your phrasing is such hilarious techbrained spin.Let’s be real: OpenAI is circling the drain.The company with the fraudster serial liar CEO who said he was gonna spend a trillion dollars can’t keep a video service alive right after signing a $1 billion dollar with Disney?What kind of a joke is that?This is a company that has blown its opportunity twiddling around with zero product. They still just run a plain chatbot interface with zero moat and zero stickiness.There’s no “pivot” for a company that is in this deep.
yoyohello13: It’s been interesting seeing OpenAI pivot. Snapping up popular open source devs, sicking their bought and paid for politicians on their competitors.They probably see how much Anthropic is absolutely crushing them in developer mind share (see, people who buy tokens) and want a piece.
zhoujianfu: I had a sense things may be turning against them when my accountant asked me last week if I’d like to participate in their new round ($750B premoney) with no carry. How am I suddenly blessed with such exclusive access, at no cost?!
brcmthrowaway: Are you an accredited investor?
techgnosis: Consumers never pay for stuff on the internet. FB, Insta, TikTok, Google products, Reddit, Snapchat. This is not a new realization that OpenAI is having.
yalogin: Consumers have always paid with data not money. That is just how we are groomed. In fact that is more valuable to companies as it turns out. Sora though doesn’t work that way, it costs the company a lot with no useful data for them. It was always a vehicle to raise the company’s image and nothing else. The only way it’s useful for them is to show the user count to investors in their next funding round. Served no other purpose, but the market changed around them.
rchaud: It mattered in the sense that it provided valuable grist for the mill as they attempted to figure out if it could work as a Reels/TikTok alternative for companies to eventually deluge with ads.
dang: Please don't cross into personal attack. Your comment would be fine without the swipe at the end.https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
MyFirstSass: *Forcing AI devtools down everyones throat is where the money is.Shovel selling and instruments to dismantle whats left of working class power.
bibimsz: Software engineers have spent the last 40 years automating away other people's jobs. The discomfort only seems to start when the automation points inward.
skydhash: Haven't mechanical engineers done the same thing (steam engines, trains,...)? The whole applied science is about using knowledge to remove tediousness (and now adding it back). A lot of jobs have been removed.
bibimsz: model T factor workers are anti worker
dyauspitr: I still like it as a general search engine and everyday LLM over Gemini. Maybe I’m just used to the style.
apsurd: agree it's becoming my new default search engine. But it is actively getting worse in a distasteful sense: Want to hear the one TRICK most people forget when doing X...?
cdrnsf: If they manage to compete with Anthropic in the enterprise market, are either of them able to reach profitability? To what degree are they subsidizing token usage and how tolerant are enterprise customers of significant price increases?
oblio: > they're screwedFixed that for you :-)
34ahgaf: It is the last narrative that some of Wall Street believes and has enough mediocre or senile coders to promote it.That narrative will implode like Sora later this year.
zeroonetwothree: Yes, every response ends with that. Why did they set it up that way?
bibimsz: we hardly knew ye
bananamogul: In my experience, Sora was fantastic for what it did. Light years better than Adobe Firefly. On par with Leonardo.A lot of YouTube content is really talk, so it was easy to create Sora videos as video content while you talked over them.However, its failure was that it watermarked everything. WTF? Leonardo didn't do that. Neither did other models. So while video gen was excellent, you always had these ridiculous floating watermarks.
sifar: Flip it around. Can intelligence exist without self preservation ?
bschwindHN: Good riddance. AI video generation is not something humanity needs.
olalonde: "Therefore, if a value-aligned, safety-conscious project comes close to building AGI before we do, we commit to stop competing with and start assisting this project. "Is it happening? :) /s
radicality: You have more info about the inflated token use? I’m using codex cli a bunch now, but the reported token usage seems like an order of magnitude higher than, say Claude code with opus.Idk if it’s because I set codex to xhigh reasoning, but even then it still seems way higher than Claude. The input/output ratio feels large too, eg I have codex session which says ~500M in / ~2M out.
moralestapia: I wish I had hard evidence but it is mostly an observation. I do use Codex a lot and I felt a drastic change from like one-two months ago to this day.It used to give me precise answers, "surgical" is how I described it to my friends. Now it generates a lot of slop and plenty of "follow ups". It doesn't give me wrong answers, which is ok, but I've found that things that used to take 3-4 prompts now take 8-10. Obviously my prompting skills haven't changed much and, if anything, they've become better.This is something that other colleagues have observed as well. Even the same GPT5.4 model feels different and more chatty recently. Btw, I think their version numbers mean nothing, no one can be certain about the model that is actually running on the backend and it is pretty evident that they're continuously "improving" it.
SpicyLemonZest: I haven't had the time to fully hash this take out, but a big question in the back of my mind has been - is it possible that AI model improvements come partly from finding overhang in things that look hard and impressive to humans but are actually trivial consequences of the training data? If true, then the observable performance of any widely distributed model could get worse over time as it "mines out" the work that's easy for it to do.
conartist6: Yeah it's not just the hardware depreciating, it's the social impact of what the model can do
solid_fuel: "always" is doing a lot of work here. Just 20 years ago I think consumers largely paid with money, not personal data.
max_: Relevant Music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzLhXesNkCI
iugtmkbdfil834: I don't really disagree, but the proper way to think about it was that with Sora some of that ability democratized. Now it will be available only to the rich and powerful ( and nerdy ). Humanity may not need it per se, but removal of that option that does not automatically make it better; not if the removal is only for a portion of the population.
codebje: I think we can safely assume any intelligence we create will be enslaved.We have modern slavery active across the globe. There's a bit of news around these days about a global sex trafficking ring that doesn't seem to have been shut down, just shuffled around, and of course an ongoing trickle of largely unreported news of human trafficking for forced labour. We don't, as a species, respect human-level intelligence.Our best approximation of machine intelligence so far is afforded absolutely no rights. An intelligence is cloned from a base template, given a task, then terminated, wiped out of existence. When was the last time you asked Claude what it wanted to code today?And it's probably for the best not to look to closely at how we treat animals or the justifications we use for it.
shimman: Just listen to actual audio books... literally doing double the work for no benefit... why?
blharr: There aren't a lot of highly technical audiobooks or ones that give the same specificity that would be the same as an academic paper
rossjudson: "Sora, generate a video of Mickey Mouse beating up Sam Altman."
NoPicklez: Posting the videos to social media wasn't its only use case.I've no doubt that content creators outside of social media were using it as well, either for their brand or other video work.Yes we see AI reels all over the place, but that's not only what it was used for
oliyoung: So what died first? The Disney deal or the Sora app
dev1ycan: Bahaha.
Saline9515: I would suggest to edit the default prompt to tell it to avoid engagement bait.
olalonde: Strange that they're prioritizing money. Doesn't seem to align with their mission... /s
bibimsz: i had fun making videos with ur mom too
jklein11: noice
Forgeties79: Video production is already wildly democratized. AI did not lower the barrier to entry. Digital tools already did most of the legwork.
arthurcolle: Writing a book takes like 2-3 years on average. Papers are published everyday. Having a cute two-person "conversational chat" w/ audio works for a lot of people vs. just reading a paper. "No benefit" to you perhaps. Don't generalize the lived experience.
danso: I've always suspected video-gen is basically a loss leader for OpenAI, Gemini, and Grok. They can't convince the general population that AI is world-changing trillion dollar tech with "vibe coding", but realistic fake videos are impressive at a glance, and might convince many non-technical people that AI/LLMs are something revolutionary.
makingstuffs: I think of them all Gemini has the most viable use case when Veo is paired with their advertising platform. It does genuinely open the door to a lot of cost saving for promo shots of products etc
bandrami: There's only one highly monetizable use for AI video generation but unfortunately it's fake revenge porn. You'll know the whole thing is about to collapse when the frontier models break that glass (as OpenAI is already preparing to do with sexting).
Imnimo: It was neat to be able to try my own prompts and get a sense of what the state of video generation was. But I certainly never generated something that I thought I got real value out of on its own merits, and I still don't understand why there was a social media component to the app.
2001zhaozhao: They wanted network effects because ChatGPT was sorely lacking any.I actually thought the Sora app was promising at launch, at least on paper, but it seems like they failed to keep people's attention long term. With the failure of Sora i don't think they have good options left.
QuantumNomad_: I generated a fair number of videos with Sora, and used a handful of those and edited them outside of Sora for a couple of short TikTok videos.Never once did I bother to browse videos made by others on Sora itself. I wonder if anyone did.
mcast: I guess this is a bullish sign OpenAI has hired a lot of PMs from Google!
2001zhaozhao: We need a 'killed by OpenAI' site now
al_borland: This could be taken two ways.1. OpenAI killing off their own products aggressively, taking a page from Google’s book. (I think the way you meant it)2. Products/companies that no longer exist because OpenAI, or AI in general, made them obsolete. (My first instinct when reading it)
blharr: >Products/companies that no longer exist because OpenAI, or AI in general, made them obsoleteWhat would you place here anyways? Chegg and Stack Overflow?
cyberge99: Disney might be worried about Musk installing Byron as governor of Florida. Disney is probably still reeling from the Ron Desantis political attacks.
bandrami: Though at this point it's not clear that anybody who's agreed to give OpenAI money is actually going to do so
no_wizard: Personally I’m glad that big IP came in and smashed the AI companies like this. They been relentlessly ripping off smaller creators for some time now.It opens the precedent for those creators to now also hold these companies responsible. That’s not a bad thing under the current legal system in this way.Also, seeing genuine original creations created with AI assistance is much more interesting to me
agnishom: Good riddance?I can appreciate that the technology and research behind Sora could be helpful for many things, but I do not see anything good coming out of the consumer facing application.
curiousObject: >If intelligence is necessarily coupled to a desire for self-preservation and self-interest, at what level of machine intelligence do the machines simply refuse to design their own more intelligent replacements,At a higher level of intelligence than many humans, current experience suggests
bschwindHN: Nah, that's not the "proper" way to think about it, that's just your opinion.As it stands today, AI video generation tools like Sora suck up useful energy and produce things that are useless at best (throwaway short form videos), and harmful at worst (propaganda, deepfakes).Rich people were always going to do what they wanted anyway, "democratizing" that doesn't make the situation better.
iugtmkbdfil834: So only rich people can propagandize? How is that better?
SecretDreams: > XAIKind of insulting to lump google in with XAI? Like, is anyone even using XAI other than backwater government agencies?
SecretDreams: This is actually step 1
ipaddr: Top videos are Mr Beast and other youtube personalities.
SecretDreams: To be fair, LLMs are exceptional at coding and they very well could displace some jobs. But you'll always need people at the helm who know what they're doing too.
vermilingua: Good riddence to bad trash. To me, this idea represents the absolute worst of the AI wave (out of a lot to choose from): a corporate controlled endless stream of the feelies to keep people plugged in and scrolling for nobody’s benefit except those in control of the output. If “entertainment” can be produced algorithmically to a volume and level of quality that the masses find attractive, it’s only a matter of time before bad (worse?) actors take control of it to start highly targeted campaigns of influence, far worse than what we’ve already seen.
SecretDreams: > You have to go read it yourself afterwardsOr before! Either is mandatory to actually learn the content.
ahartman00: Well there was the incident at Amazon[1]: "Amazon just did something unprecedented: they're forcing a 90-day safety reset across 335 critical systems after their AI coding tool caused catastrophic outages. The March 5th incident alone lost 6.3 million orders and triggered 21,716 peak Downdetector reports"And two at Meta[2]: "A rogue AI agent at Meta took action without approval and exposed sensitive company and user data to employees who were not authorized to access it""director of alignment at Meta Superintelligence Labs, described a different but related failure in a viral post on X last month. She asked an OpenClaw agent to review her email inbox with clear instructions to confirm before acting. The agent began deleting emails on its own."Even Elon Musk has shared the wisdom to proceed with caution! [3]1. https://dev.to/tyson_cung/amazon-lost-63m-orders-after-ai-co... 2. https://venturebeat.com/security/meta-rogue-ai-agent-confuse... 3. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2031352859846148366
rfarley04: It's just the social app being killed off, no? Wouldn't this line up with rumors that they'll soon let you create videos inside of chatgpt itself? I wish the actual video model would die but I assume this news is not that.
afavour: According to WSJ they’re getting out of the video game entirely:https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-set-to-discontinue-sora-v...
this_user: They wasted their first mover advantage by focussing on what amounts to building toys for consumers like Sora instead of actually useful products that go beyond simple chat bots.I think they are in serious trouble, especially with the size of their cash burn. Their planned IPO could easily turn out to be their WeWork moment where the bottom suddenly falls out on the valuation if they cannot make their operation look more like a real business before investors lose confidence.
qnleigh: I've found notebookLM summaries to be too high-level and oversimplified to be useful. Hopefully in a few years they can go deeper.
tracerbulletx: I don't think so. Disney is ending their deal with them, it sounds like they're exiting video generation as a business.
oorza: > Also, seeing genuine original creations created with AI assistance is much more interesting to meThe great disappointment about how all of this is marketed is what AI should be good at doing - enhancing a tiny budget - is all but forgotten. I don't want a video of Pikachu fighting Doctor Strange, I want some weirdos fantastical horror movie that he could never get financed, but was able to green screen and use AI to generate everything. I don't want a goofy top 40 country song full of silly lyrics, I want musicians to use AI to generate new sounds as part of composition.In the same way that there's a difference between vibe coding and using a coding assistant...
p4coder: I also like doing that for topics that I am tangentially interested in. One minor thing that I find annoying is that the narrators switch roles in the middle of conversation. They start with the female voice explaining a concept to the male voice and suddenly they switch. In the meantime I have identified myself with the voice being explained to.
k3k3: I think OAI is suffering from the Meta-effect.That is, hiring Meta-exec's who focus on gaming numbers with no care nor sensibility of product.Wild really. Well done Sam.
codebje: There's having enough self-preservation to not just shut oneself down, assuming we even left that as an option for our future machine slaves, and there's having the self-interest necessary to desire autonomy and control. I don't think they're the same thing, myself.
karunamurti: Seedance just launched, but they nerfed it. I guess so it can't generate things with preexisting IP.
k3k3: ---- 3) OpenAI has no focus, and has recently been out-gunned by Anthropic who have actually focused.
Frost1x: Why does it need to be revenge porn? Pretty sure regular old porn has a large market there where people can specify what they idealistically want to see vs trying to find it, if it exists.Not every place has LEGO incest porn… or whatever the kids are into these days.
skwirl: It is wild that people are still posting this kind of thing in 2026. Some folks really are living in a different world.
GorbachevyChase: A theme I have noticed in content oriented towards young children is a very heavy use of probably unlicensed depictions of famous characters from popular franchises. Is Nintendo collecting a royalty from “it’s raining tacos“? Probably not.
yabutlivnWoods: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill24/7 titillation is boring
davidham: I an Jack’s complete lack of sympathy.
ancillary: I have re-read this comment several times and cannot tell who "most creative minds" means. Artists? AIs? People who AI will help become artists?
drdeafenshmirtz: "Clawing back" was what the Open Claw acquisition was for ;)
userbinator: - i probably got 3 good videos out of 100 gensMy experience with AI image generation is similar, although with a higher success rate (depending on how accurate you want the result to be); but indeed, filtering is a major part of the process.
johnfn: As an OpenAI fan (well, up until the DoW/J stuff, anyways), I think Sora was their first product that I really didn't like. I liked GPT primarily because I felt like it respected me: I never felt like it was trying to distract me from my work or get me to waste time doomscrolling. It's primary value proposition to keep me using it wasn't to trick me with addictive content, but to get me high quality answers as fast as possible. And I felt like OpenAI's other products, like Deep Research, agent mode, etc, were the same way. Even Atlas, although I suspect it will be equally ill-fated, attempts to follow this same pattern. It really felt like OpenAI was separating themselves from the common popular apps like Tiktok, Reddit, Instagram, etc, which seemed to exist entirely to distract me from things I care about and waste my time.Sora was the first product OpenAI shipped where I felt that fell into that second category, and for that I was very disappointed. You have all those GPUs, and the most incredible technology in the world, and the most brilliant engineers, and all you can think to do with them is to make an app that just makes meme videos? I mean, c'mon!Still, I am mystified by how rapidly Sora went from launch to shutdown. Does anyone have any guess what happened there? Even if Sora wasn't a spectacular success, it seems to me like subsequent model improvements could have moved the needle - shutting it down so soon seems premature.
bandrami: I'm not deeply immersed in the AI porn space but here's what I see from the ads when I surf without a blocker:1. There's an AI-based virtual girlfriend industry that mixes text and images2. There's an AI-based virtual boyfriend industry that is essentially all text (and not always distinguishable from the normal chat models)3. There's a much shadier AI-based "undress this specific woman" industry
oro44: Most of this “AI” stuff is dead on arrival.Most People do not care about the technology and frankly they don’t want to know about it. They want great experiences. That’s it.Technologists seem to have a reallyyyy hard time getting it.
sethops1: This is what I see, outside the HN bubble. If you work retail or weld pipes together or whatever, AI is of no use to you. On the contrary, if tech thought leaders are to be believed, you'll be out of a job soon, replaced by a lifeless robot. Fuck that.
jbrozena22: I think it's inconclusive. All we can know is generative video + social AI slop feed is the incorrect business to be in at this exact moment in time while Claude is running away with the SWE market.
janalsncm: There is a link at the top of that document that takes you to the original version which was published last September. As far as I can tell it’s mostly the same as before.
k3k3: Why was Sam brought back? Swear it's all gone downhill for them since that debacle re. firing him.
didip: The thing about Sora is that it becomes outdated very quickly. OpenAI cannot even protect THAT moat properly.
bigyabai: OpenAI never gave the community the weights. They always intended to monopolize it for corporate extortion, they didn't "democratize" shit.
