Discussion

Palantir defends its role in the kill chain: “We are very, very proud of that”

zoklet-enjoyer: Alex Karp is an evil degenerate

smegma2: Not trying to be contrarian here, but I don’t get the problem. What’s wrong with Palantir producing weapons or military intelligence? How is it different from making guns?Is the problem what those things are used for, or is it the way Palantir does it?

gkoberger: "You're attacking the person who's protecting you – idiot. [..] You may hate this, but there's one person protecting your rights to be a conspiracy theorist that actually has a seat at the table, and that person is me. [..] You may not want to hear that truth, but it's fucking true."The way Alex Karp views himself is scary; he gives himself (and his company) carte blanche when it comes to morality. He's basically become the Jack Nicholson character from A Few Good Men.Yes, America needs technology to succeed. But it can't be unchecked.

olalonde: Yeah, it's just misplaced outrage. Wars are the responsibility of politicians and voters, not the tools or contractors used.

avazhi: I'd take the Jack Nicholson character from A Few Good Men over Komeini or Osama or whoever your Islamist despot of choice is, personally. And I'd choose it that way 100% of the time.For many of us, the end of this extreme cultural and intellectual relativism couldn't have come soon enough.

throwaway27448: Khomeini died almost forty years ago

some_random: I think a lot of progressives have this huge blind spot right now where they fundamentally cannot empathize with their opponents at all. Of course Palantir is proud of their work, this is basically their raison d'etre. They are not somehow evil and also deeply ashamed of what they're doing, they genuinely think what they are doing is right.

iammjm: So what? I don't really care if you are proud of your work if I think you work is objectively evil. I imagine the designers of the Auschwitz's gas chambers were also proud of their "good" work. Yeah I ain't empathizing with them either and you can call that a "blind spot"

bibimsz: you're not right just because you label your opponents as evil.

bigyabai: Nor are you right for denying the accusation.

culi: What does that have to do with anything? The Nazis also genuinely believed what they were doing is right? What benefit would empathizing with Nazis bring us? Their self assessment is entirely irrelevant

throwaway27448: I don't know. What's wrong with being a serial killer?

stavros: It must be nice to live in a world where your country is always morally right just because it's your country. It's much simpler that way.

astrashe2: It doesn't change the reality of what's happening, so I don't think this is worth much, but most people here don't think that.

stavros: I know, I was talking about Karp.

sifar: It is not a binary choice. This is the greatest illusion people in power manage to create, there are only two choices - pro or anti.

givemeethekeys: Nationalism has its benefits.

culi: nationalism is critical-thinking-rot

bibimsz: liberals have no problem with killing, they just want to be the ones doing it.

lyu07282: but they are doing it for the right, moral reasons /s

bibimsz: i can name many reasons why liberals are evil but I'm not here to argue politics. just know you don't have a monopoly on judging your opponent.

lyu07282: most people probably agree with that, but only until you mention a specific example then people loose their minds.

bigyabai: If you can conclusively prove that liberals are evil, be my guest. Give me your rhetorical coup-de-grace that annihilates half of America's voting bloc.Even the Nazis retained the ability to judge their opponents when WWII ended. Pity that their opponents were hangmen that wanted them to answer for murder.

bibimsz: you are insufferable

JumpinJack_Cash: > > It doesn't change the reality of what's happening, so I don't think this is worth much, but most people here don't think that.Where are the ginormous protests that happened during the Iraq invasion?Me thinks it was not about right or wrong but fear of a new Vietnam type draft.Now that war has changed there are not similar type of protests because it's the missiles and drones doing the killing