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vova_hn2: Vibecoders messed with billing service again
folkhack: As someone who's been around the block for affordable hosting providers, OVH was one of those that never really impressed. They never had any major downtime for me, but micro-outages, blips... things like that were common. Support was fine. In time I migrated off in search of better stability.Overall my gold standard is still Hetzner or DO for easy-to-use, affordable VPS/hosting options.
utopiah: > They never had any major downtime for meOne of my server was lost to a fire so...That being said, only happen one and I had no data on it so I didn't mind.I switched to Hetzner too.
Robdel12: Does it really need a VPS? Can’t throw it onto a cloudflare page for free?
messe: Please don't encourage MITM-ing even more of the web by a US company.
someotherperson: They're already throwing cloudflare in front of it
iberator: DO is amazing. Easy to use and clean
arionmiles: Why does documentation require hosting it on a server? My assumption is that it's a static site, and as such, even GitHub Pages would be sufficient.I know... all content has to be served via a "server" but in case of OVH it's a full-blown hosting solution isn't it?Besides, I'm sure GitHub wouldn't mind supporting Pandas documentation. They do it for a million other projects for free (even though they're not popular among the HN crowd these days)
blell: Hehehe AI sucks amirite HN?? Upboats to the left!!
vova_hn2: Sorry, couldn't resist
idoubtit: Before cutting a service, OVH sends several warnings. In my opinion, the worrying point is not that OVH made a mistake, it's that important messages to the "infrastructure mailing list" of Pandas were ignored for weeks... until the post-mortem.
hypeatei: I've always wondered how these types of "waived" accounts are coded in the backend. Are there flags in a table (i.e. first class support) or is it hacked together with duct tape? Seems like OVH is using the latter solution.
Taek: Isn't Hetzner strongly associated with OVH? I thought they were under the same umbrella.
liotier: Competitors on the same market segment - France vs. Germany.
alephnerd: Nope.OVH Groupe is a separate VPS (and an extremely large one) based in France and Poland. They are backed by Xavier Niels (one of the powers behind Macron's throne).Hetzner is a smaller but imo better managed VPS and colo in Germany.
eduction: Probably because your assumption is wrong - they host a live shell and documentation search.https://web.archive.org/web/20260220092649/https://pandas.py...https://web.archive.org/web/20260225185816/https://pandas.py...(I don't know anything about pandas, incidentaly, I just did some basic research before posting.)
lovelearning: I wonder why they didn't use readthedocs.com. Their community plan promises free hosting for docs of open-source projects. I thought most Python packages prefer it. Surprised to see pandas outside of it.
JohnTHaller: I'm using OVH for downloads from PortableApps.com as their un-metered VPS was one of the better and affordable options. Haven't noticed any issues (knock wood). Is there something else I should look at?
wiether: Billing is definitely the worst thing for OVH customers.It's far from perfect otherwise, but billing is just awful.
wiether: Xavier Niel is behind Scaleway, not OVH
leca: Man I used PortableApps.com so much back when I was in high school to get around the "you can't install anything on this computer" rule... Thank you for your service.
hjouneau: OVH is not backed by Xavier Niel. Niel is behind Scaleway, which is OVH’s main French competitor.
m132: Man, the spam this issue has been getting since getting posted here though... GitHub has literally become Facebook with code hosting
ge96: I'm pro OVH granted I've not used Hetzner before and only used DO briefly. I too remember the burn but they gave credit. I like the emails saying "your service is under DDOS attack".
jon-wood: I rent a dedicated server from OVH for various self hosted services and for the price I really can't complain. If there's been any outages they happened at times when I wasn't interacting with it so I didn't notice. I'm not entirely sure I'd trust a server that mattered to them but for what I'm doing they're fine.
hinkley: How many data centers have had a server room burn to the ground?We had a halon system in an on-prem data center twice the size of my bedroom. We had to knock out a wall because the volume was too small for the smallest cooling system we could get installed in the building. That was 20 years ago, and we had to do it for insurance reasons. In the United States, which I know you Europeans like to make fun of for being sooo amusingly Neanderthal.What the absolute fuck, OVH.
quesera: OVH operates three hosting brands:OVH, SYS (So You Start), and KimSufi. It's a bit confusing!IIRC they bring the newest hardware into OVH and push it down the line to SYS and KS as it ages.
