Discussion
Optimizing Ruby Path Methods
blinkbat: don't take this the wrong way, but -- people still use ruby?
nixpulvis: People should. I seriously miss using it at my day job. It's not for code where type systems make things a lot more stable, but it's great for scripting and quick things. Also ORMs in ruby are truly nice, and I haven't found anything as good anywhere else.Generally speaking Ruby has the best APIs.
nixpulvis: Would this be possible to mainline into ruby in some way?
vidarh: From the article: "This new feature will be available in Ruby 4.1.0."
vidarh: > More importantly, on CI systems it’s relatively common to check out code using git, and git doesn’t care about mtimegit doesn't care about mtime, but git maintains trees whose hash changes if any constituent part of the tree changes. It'd seem tempting to check for a .git and if present use the git tree to determine whether to invalidate the cache.
byroot: Aside from the oddness of making this cache git aware, with the new implementation I suspect querying git to revalidate the cache would take longer than just rebuilding it.
vidarh: For pretty much everything. My terminal is in Ruby, with a Ruby font renderer, running Ruby shell, and my editor is in Ruby, my window manager, my file manager.(Yes, I'm taking it a bit far; my prototype Ruby compiler is self-hosting finally, so I guess sometime in the next 20 years I'll end up booting into a Ruby kernel for no good reason...)
akerl_: What’s the right way to take this?
claudiug: ruby and rails is the only stuff that keep me doing web development.when I touch js, and python... I prefer ONLY AI agentic style of working.
vidarh: Looking up the hash of a tree in git is few enough operations that I would be very surprised if that is true for all but the smallest caches. If you were to shell out to the git binary, maybe.
nixpulvis: Thanks, missed that.
flats: Absolutely yes, all over the place! Startups are building greenfield software with Rails as we speak. Loads of established businesses have Ruby applications that are quietly chugging along doing their jobs well. & Shopify, a company with $1.6 billion in annual revenue, uses Ruby _very_ heavily & also invests in the wider Ruby ecosystem.Ruby is not without its drawbacks & drama, but it’s elegant in a way that few languages are to this day (how many JS programmers _actually_ grok prototype-based object-orientation?) & compared to NPM, RubyGems is (lately) unexciting in the best way.
x3n0ph3n3: It's my daily language and I don't even use rails nowadays.
