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Musketeer d'Artagnan's remains believed found under Dutch church

lostlogin: That sounds like someone just decided to have a dig around inside the church.

brightball: Hold on…that was an entirely fictional story?Is there some part of it that was based on real people?

rags2riches: Some Swedes will be delighted to learn that not only was there a historical d'Artagnan, but also a real life cardinal named Mazarin. But I have yet to find a historical person named Loranga.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loranga,_Masarin_och_Dartanjan...

pax: This autumn I have visited the Lavardens Castle which had an exhibition on D'Artagnan. Stole the English version of the explanations (QR codes, hosted incognito on their website)https://pax.github.io/playground/lavardens-dartagnan/

Bayart: There were in fact two Mazarin cardinals. The one people know about, who happened to be one of the major statesmen in Europe at the time, and his brother who was notoriously useless.

ibero: there’s no hard evidence here. the “99%” referenced in the article is someone’s personal subjective confidence it’s him. body buried under church is not particularly eventful news as it stands.

bena: Same here. I thought it was completely fictional.So, I immediately looked it up. There was a real d'Artagnan, he was kind of a big deal, so Dumas wrote some stories based on a fictionalized version of the real d'Artagnan.

bigstrat2003: Wow, that's really cool. I knew that Cardinal Richelieu was a real person (and that he is credited with inventing the butter knife!), but I didn't realize there were others.

kergonath: > I knew that Cardinal Richelieu was a real personAnd he was more than a big deal. One of the most powerful people in Europe at the time.

fusslo: D'Artagnan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Batz_de_Castelmore_...Cardinal Mazarin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_MazarinAthos - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_d%27AthosPorthos - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_de_PorthauAramis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_d%27AramitzAll highly fictionalized and I have had trouble finding information on the real counterparts (aside from the Cardinal). I started learning about that period of history after listening to the D'Artagnan Romances in audiobook form.

Ylpertnodi: > his brother who was notoriously useless.So, he became a priest? (Father Ted [a literary classic] reference)