Discussion
The Grand Line
thelucent: I tried writing a short novel using Claude Opus 4.6, I gave it outline and raw draft, and the style is very similar to this writing.I tried to steer it away from this kind of writing because it feels weird. But it always try to output something similar to this. Or maybe I am just not used to reading novel.So I was curious, what kind of training data was Claude trained on, that its very hard to steer it out from this style.So I opened my kindle and looking through the recommended popular novels. Just reading through its free samples.And the similarities are striking. Now, I dont know whether the recommended novel is the training data, or its actually written by LLM. Or maybe its just how novelist writes.I even tried writing full chapter from scratch. And asked Claude to ghost write the second chapter for me using my writing style. It still wont follow my style and keeps writing in this kind of style from the article.Not accusing the article of using an LLM to ghost write. Even so its fine to use LLM to ghost write. Its just one anecdote from my side, on how LLM fails to follow my writing style and keeps coming back to its training data.
computably: > And the similarities are striking. Now, I dont know whether the recommended novel is the training data, or its actually written by LLM. Or maybe its just how novelist writes.For traditionally published works, it's trivial to exclude LLM-written content, just look for anything published before Nov 30, 2022.
echelon: Is the ChatGPT launch the "low background steel" date for writing?What's are the dates for images and video? Nano Banana Pro and Seedance 2.0?And code? Opus 4.6?
alex43578: It's not the launch of GPT, but probably about 4 or 4o that it really became solid. I also don't think video is there just yet, at least for video over 10 seconds.
elcapitan: Which is also a good filter for web searches to exclude a lot of garbage results (if the specific search makes sense for non-recent results)
postsantum: 4-5 words sentences ted talk style, yes. I hated it even when humans were doing it. It's like motivational speakers trying their hand at writing novels
gbnwl: > But here is the part that almost every working framework of pilgrimage gets wrong> This is how pilgrimages actually begin. Not with a call. Not with a vision. Not with a voice in the night.> One Piece is not a book. It is not a film. It is not a series one binges on a weekend and then files away next to the other series. It is a text a person can spend their entire adult life with.Sigh. Trite and navel gazy, generated entirely by an LLM to boot.
elcapitan: LLM or not, this is just terrible kitsch.
fingerlocks: Why stop with traditionally published works? Before dead-internet-day, very-nearly all forms of writing were guaranteed to be hand crafted, organic, and made with 100% Natural Intelligence.The artificial stuff often has an odd taste, but boy it sure is quick and convenient.
operatingthetan: Is it "solid" if people can read it and instantly know it's generated content?
