Discussion
Iran threatens ‘complete and utter annihilation’ of OpenAI's $30B Stargate AI data center in Abu Dhabi — regime posts video with satellite imagery of ChatGPT-maker's premier 1GW data center
wewewedxfgdf: Seems pretty easy to me to just stop the war to end this sort of stuff.But I must be missing something.
lazyeye: The view from the couch is such that everything seems pretty easy really.
TurdF3rguson: I wonder what's stranger. That they think Trump will care about OpenAI's datacenter in Abu Dhabi, or that we're getting this news from tomshardware.com
ivan_gammel: He may care in the end, because TACO. Looks like this is a pattern of modern war where both sides are testing the escalation levels by attacking the infrastructure. It‘s like MAD, but going up in smaller increments rather than hitting with everything after one or two limited strikes like nuclear. Basically, you hit my power plant, I‘ll hit yours. It‘s the same path Ukraine went on: they initially showed restraint in responses, but now they are matching Russian pressure by choosing the same civilian targets.
paulryanrogers: Trump must save face. Publicly backing down is only possible once there's some kind of out, probably involving Iran loudly compromising.
bigyabai: It's not a terrible target. Long-term it puts stress on US/UAE cooperation, and short-term it mirrors the destabilization inside Iran with escalation outside it.From the armchair perspective, these sorts of strikes are exactly what I'd imagine that China is advocating for behind closed doors. A few well-placed drone strikes can cause more economic damage than any SAM shootdown or embassy attack could, tactically accelerating the war and strategically entrenching Chinese technology.
jameskilton: We are in a really bad situation, of our own making no doubt.We actually have no idea who's in charge of Iran (the stated ruler has yet to be seen and probably was severely injured in the same blast that killed Khamenei), but it's a pretty good bet that they are even more extreme and hard-line than before.We've shown that Iran has complete and total control over the global economy via energy markets.Every other country in the region wants Iran gone. Or to put it in more direct terms, the US kind of needs to "finish the job".If we back down now, Iran wins, and that may actually be the worst possible situation to end up in.To everyone who voted for Trump ... YOU VOTED FOR THIS. THANKS.
paulpauper: Trump is old and a lame duck. I think he sees not backing down in as his last hope of creating a legacy
luke5441: Irans leadership does not want to be killed by being bombed every few month. So they need to impose sufficient costs to deter bombing them.Idk what you are missing... maybe that people don't want to be killed and try to implement strategies to not get killed?
grafmax: Trump would also have to navigate the loyalty the US state apparatus has to Israel. Iran has made it clear that the ceasefire option is off the table this time round. So I just don’t see the US extricating itself from this quagmire barring some extreme political upheaval.But who knows, if you take Trump’s incompetence, plus the possibility of global economic collapse, plus the possibility of global food shortages, we just might see it.
spwa4: Such as killing protestors by the 10's of thousands? Yeah, what's the problem with that?
spwa4: ran started with 5 demands:* US out of middle east entirely (meaning removing the army bases protecting the gulf countries)* Cessation of hostilities, including their proxy forces* Security guarantees, including for their proxy forces (translation: letting Iran fully take over Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and probably soon Saudi Arabia)* Payment of war reparations to the IRGC* Taxing the strait of HormuzThey're down to 1 demand only: cessation of hostilities, only against Iran itself. Well, let's not forget who we're talking to. The only thing Iran's "revolutionaries", but in reality a dictator with a bunch of mansions in London, wants is guarantees for his own safety.Now it's war and no doubt things can go very badly very quickly. But, so far, seems to be going pretty damn well for the US if we're being honest.
akagusu: Do you work in arms industry? Because unless you are the arms industry, wasting almost 1 billion dollars per day fighting a war that has nothing to do with us does not seem like "going pretty damn well"
akagusu: Just like ICE killing american citizens? Yeah, what's the problem with that?
drivingmenuts: He won't care unless someone bribes him to care. This is all happening someplace not at one of his golf courses.
spwa4: Of course these 2 compare about as standing on a random pedestrian's toe compares to massacring a small city. Both regrettable in absolute terms, but not remotely comparable.(why not just the numbers? Because the ICE deaths were definitely not intentional. Nobody gave anybody the order to fire. But Iran's killing of protestors was 100% intentional by the regime. In other words, aside from 2 versus 40.000, all 40.000 Iranian deaths count as 1st degree murder, including the massacre on children Iran's islamists committed)
akagusu: As an American citizen my concern is the American regime shooting American citizens.I'm not Iranian and I'm not there, but I'm here where ICE can "unintentionally" shot me.And bringing numbers to make them look bad and justify the war doesn't help, because Israel killed much more in Gaza with the help of US government and corporations.Let's compare both them?
defrost: Well, there you have it - the principal investors in $30 billion dollar capital infrastructure projects have been known to bribe a POTUS or two.At the very least dangle a shiny gold ball tickling trophy in his eyeline to briefly gain attention.
