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ZeWaka: The Keychron K4/related (K4 HE here) compact 96% layout is definitely my favorite keyboard layout. Just a solid brick of keys.
jhogendorn: Oh, does this involve their questionable kickstarter units with the cheap knockoff keys they refused to warranty or support, but were known faulty, and they swiftly replaced in store in the first 6 months? The ones that are pin incompatible with any other standard keys so you cant replace them? Yknow, the ones that mean I will never buy or recommend a keychron kb again?
skrtskrt: A Keychron has always been a great introduction for friends that want a good home desk setup without too much fuss.I have stuck with the System76 Launch keyboard but I basically always consider Keychron first when looking.
OsrsNeedsf2P: Hah, I just bought the Q6. Seeing they released their design spec makes me much happier with the purchase!
altairprime: [delayed]
stingraycharles: Keychron just open-sourced their design files, which I didn’t expect.I’m a happy user of their keyboards.
mananaysiempre: Not open source or open hardware, which they are pretty clear about.> This project is source-available. Personal and educational use is allowed, and commercial use is allowed for compatible accessories. You may not copy and sell Keychron keyboards or mice [...].
observationist: It's awesome if you mod your own gear, and 3d printing / one off part services are ubiquitous, so if you see something you like online, it's cheap and easy to do little upgrades.More companies should do what they do - the less ethical players are already cloning knockoffs anyways, stuff like this builds brand loyalty and probably makes it more likely that people stick with Keychron over going for the knockoffs.
chaosharmonic: Side question:On the source-available piece, I'm not saying I'm for those over open source licenses in general, but Prusa brought up some fair questions when discussing the OCL. Essentially: define "personal use." Have I violated a non-commercial license if I print this keyboard and then use it to build someone a website? Does CC-NC mean a Prusacaster -- or any guitar knob with such a license for that matter -- is strictly barred from being taken on tour? Or used to record albums that are then sold? (And I say "guitar" knob, but I'm choosing an example a little consciously that could exist in any variety of controls, instrument and otherwise.)Where are the lines of that when it's physical things? How far downstream does that go if it isn't CC-NC-SA?I'm not really sure that Creative Commons had the idea of physical production in mind, given that it dates back to a time when we were more broadly talking about digital piracy, and I honestly haven't kept up with its evolution much in more recent years. But maybe it just doesn't make the same sense for designs of physical things, for comparable reasons to why it wouldn't make sense for code (and, conversely, open source projects that still opt to use CC licenses for assets).
dmarinus: Wooting has done this already for many years: https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design
lamasery: I'd consider another Keychron (my first mechanical since a couple of AT and PS/2 Model M and variant devices I had years and years ago) and I like some stuff about it and definitely like the price, but would look for a model with a few differences next time and probably skip Keychron if I couldn't get all of these fixed in one of their boards:1 - Longer battery life (I have a bluetooth + plug-in model). The battery life is crazy-low, even when not in use and the lights are turned off. I keep it plugged in all the time, as a result. I don't really get why it can't last, idle, about as long as a game controller does (many weeks! And those don't have much space for batteries).2 - No light pattern button. That thing exists only to accidentally hit and switch it away from "gently and evenly lit" which is one of the very-few non-insane patterns available. Brush it by accident, there goes a minute or so of your time getting it back to something that's not trying to look like a disco ball. And it's right on the corner, so you will hit it by accident when moving the keyboard around or reaching for something just past it. Easily my least-favorite thing about the board, despite how bad the next item is.3 - Mine has a kind of tray-design around the edge, resulting in about a 1/8" lip, that looks very cheap to assemble (so that's nice, lower price) but means it collects EVERYTHING out of the air and is a pain in the ass to clean. It also makes it look kinda like someone's 3D printed hobby project. Like it's an ugly keyboard, both because of the design and because it's visibly collecting dust and hair just a few days after its last keys-removed full cleaning.
kukakike: You can remap/disable all light shortcuts using web app https://launcher.keychron.com/#/keymap
arikrahman: I love the design for the ergonomic mouse. Are there any plans for split keyboard or something Corne style?
dec0dedab0de: Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point.Now, what is interesting is if someone were to blatantly violate the license and start manufacturing commercial keyboards. I believe their only recourse would be to revoke their license of the design files, and then it would be copyright infringement. The thing is, I don't know how copyright law would handle any damages.I don't know if making a physical product could be a violation of copyright, regardless of if you had a license to use the design in the first place. I could definitely imagine a company trying to enforce this, and a judge throwing it out because it should have been handled with patents.Again, not a lawyer, just speculating on a forum.
Majromax: > Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point.What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo?What if I skip the printing and use the design files as a basis for a rendered photo or animation?What if I print the design, then use a 3D scanner to recreate a file from the physical artifact?