Discussion
yedidmh: Anyone else can't scroll on this site?
p0bs: Focusing only on the second and top layer of the diagram, I usually call them “the increments and the excrements”.
ma2kx: The MacLeod Life Cycle reminds me on the 5 seasons of the illuminati calendar:Verwirrung Season of Chaos January 1-March 14Zweitracht Season of Discord March 15-May 26Unordnung Season of Confusion May 27-August 7Beamtenherrschaft Season of Bureaucracy August 8-October 19Grummet Season of Aftermath October 20-December 31From the book Illuminatus!
bananaflag: See the Scott Alexander review:https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/book-review-the-gervais-pri...
gsf_emergency_7: Liked this comment:"we could convince a Sociopath that we were all Losers, we might be able to entice them into spilling their secrets as 'Straighttalk'. (Arguably that's what this book is..)"Rao much more optimistic than Orwell, who declared that doublespeak was the lingua franca?https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/book-review-the-gervais-pri...
orthoxerox: Scott took it too literally. See also how the broader rationalist community took issue with Sam Kriss for inventing a not-obviously-fake historical figure.The biggest takeaway for me is that you shouldn't expect to succeed as a manager by meeting (or exceeding) KPIs. It's about as effective as being a "nice guy" and expecting intimacy in return.The KPIs are there for assigning blame, not for identifying key personnel. You can game them to increase your compensation if you are already doing something that an even bigger manager finds useful and important. Conversely, you can get away with half-assing every official performance indicator as long as you keep delivering the real thing.
k__: I liked that model a lot, but it made me a bit sad too.All my life I was bad at being a loser, somehow I never really felt I fit in. I thought this was because of psychopathic tendencies or something. However, after reading this I realized there was another option and I was just clueless.
OgsyedIE: The Berne books Rao cites as explanations of Gametalk are solidly good entries in of themselves, although it's probably best to use an LLM to get search results of the best introductions to TA first to see if they've been surpassed.
OgsyedIE: The most interesting parts of the essay are the ways that Rao (a full proponent of the niche psychotherapy school of transactional analysis) applies his view of psychoanalysis to describe the social dynamics between coworkers with differing levels of nihilism.He argues that the 'sociopath class' of social-climbing nihilists map 1:1 onto the leaderships of large organizations but it's rare in the real world. Usually there are people of all levels of naiveté and nihilism at all ranks of organizations, with naive true believers mixing with nihilists at the top, the middle and the bottom fairly equally, because the world has too much churn to settle into the kind of density-separation equilibrium he describes.
bookhimdano: This is interesting enough, I’d buy a book about this (audiobook at least).I’ve tried to limit myself to only the best and most practical books about leadership that didn’t start corporate speak, and I doubt Gervais Principle would be quoted or used in work conversation, so it’s perfect.
tdrgabi: What other books did you find in that style?
