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darkwater: The fact that there is not a single root cause but several ones makes me instinctively think this is a good report, because it's not what the "bosses" (and even less politicians) like to hear.
ragebol: Yep, sounds like "This was bound to happen at some point"
cucumber3732842: Which on some level is exactly "what the bosses and politicians want to hear"When it's everybody's fault it's nobody's fault.
drob518: Exactly.
drob518: Frequently, when you see these massive failures, the root cause is an alignment of small weaknesses that all come together on a specific day. See, for instance, the space shuttle O-ring incident, Three-Mile Island, Fukushima, etc. These are complex systems with lots of moving parts and lots of (sometimes independent) people managing them. In a sense, the complexity it the common root cause.
OgsyedIE: There are ways to aggregate these into a single resilience score for policy makers with only moderate loss of detail but it's unpopular.
amelius: It usually starts with a broken coffee machine.
algoth1: As someone who lived through the blackout it was wild. I felt back into the pre-internet, pre-smartphone era. It was pretty cool actually. The rumor mill spread so fast that Within hours the official word on the street was that we were getting hacked by a foreign military and people were joking that we had nothing of interest to be conquered xD
linuxguy2: It's like the Swiss Cheese model where every system has "holes" or vulnerabilities, several layers, and a major incident only occurs when a hole aligns through all the layers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model
madaxe_again: I didn’t even know about it until the next day - totally off grid, and starlink for internet access - and no mobile signal where we live to give it away either.
singhrac: I think people underestimate how valuable these reports are, so I’m very glad that detailed investigation is done here. Every major grid operator around the world is going to study this and make improvements to make sure this doesn’t happen on their grid.In a lot of ways it’s like investigations into airplane crashes.
Ringz: I use this model all the time. It's very helpful for explaining the multifactorial genesis of catastrophes to ordinary people.
