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The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

nickdothutton: Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

1317: "I give permission to IBM, its customers, partners, and minions, to use JSLint for evil."

Qem: Specially AI Allucination bombs, that hit a park named "Police Park", because it thinks it's killing policemen, or a children school with Shahed in the name, because it thinks It has something to do with drones.

gillesjacobs: https://web.archive.org/web/20260402155236/https://www.redha...Archive URL to original paper

bpavuk: who let the Streisand effect out of its cage!?

jancsika: Channeling my inner Socrates:You want consensus from non-experts for a plan to use 20 smart bombs.Your opponent wants consensus for a plan to live-stream a demo of 1 smart bomb, and then use 19 dumb ones.Your team has more expertise.Your opponent's plan saves enough money to buy a better PR team than yours, and is still more cost effective than your plan.Who wins?

Qem: > With that in mind, it seems Red Hat, owned by IBM, is desperately trying to scrub a certain white paper from the internet. Titled “Compress the kill cycle with Red Hat Device Edge”, the 2024 white paper details how Red Hat’s products and technologies can make it easier and faster to, well, kill people.It appears IBM learned no lessons after WWII: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_HolocaustThat book will need a sequel soon.

Modified3019: Ah, now I see where they got the name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap

breppp: Your links talk about the places that were bombed, but I don't see anything apart for conjecture that this was the product of AI targeting.Also this is a vast underestimate of the ability of organizations that were able to locate most of Iranian leadership throughout the war in their hiding places, but suddenly their Farsi is so bad they need a twitter account to tell them this is a Park

SoftTalker: > I don’t think there’s something inherently wrong with working together with your nation’s military or defense companies, but that all hinges on what, exactly, said military is doing and how those defense companies’ products are being used. The focus should be on national defense, aid during disasters, and responding to the legitimate requests of sovereign, democratic nations to come to their defenseThe core purpose of a military is to destroy things and kill people, and the world is controlled by the people who can do that better than others. You can put all the "defense" and "disaster aid" lipstick on that you like but that doesn't change what they train for and what their real purpose is.

DonHopkins: In evil mode it indents by mixing tabs and spaces.

DonHopkins: Smart bombs are no good if they are directed by a dumb targeting system, dumb alcoholic accelerationist religious fanatic Secretary of War, or dumb narcissistic genocidal pedophile Presidents.

ThrowawayR2: [delayed]

philipwhiuk: I dunno that 'removes from their website' is sufficient for 'trying to erase from the Internet'Can we rename this "RedHat removes paper from website on using their software to 'shrink the kill-chain'"

tjwebbnorfolk: > and the world is controlled by the people who can do that better than othersYes, welcome to Earth. Only the dead have seen the end of war.You might wish it were different, but wishing it were different doesn't change the reality that our world is governed by predators. So you can be the apex predator, or you can be eaten.There's absolutely no morality in deciding to be weaker than you have to be.

gameofliferetro: Was this written by an Iranian propaganda machine?

anigbrowl: How could it be? The US has won the war against them many times over, to the point that they no longer exist.

anigbrowl: You can rationalize anything by only considering the upside relative to alternatives' downsides.

neilv: Besides external PR, does anyone know how this affects internal morale?Some of the earlier Red Hat people I knew would not be OK with working on weapons systems even under the most legitimate circumstances. And they'd be much more opposed to collaborating with fascist regimes. And I think horrified by the idea of shoveling AI slop and grifter hype into life&death decisions.Of course the tech industry makeup has changed (overall culture transitioning from hacker idealists, to finance bros), and some IBM-ification of Red Hat has has also happened. But I'd like to think Red Hat still attracts a more principled pool of talent than FAANG.

localuser13: I chuckled. This is, in fact, actual quote, see[1] for explanation.[1] https://gist.github.com/kemitchell/fdc179d60dc88f0c9b76e5d38...