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cyanmagenta: Forgive the naivety, but what graphical Linux apps are people trying to run that don’t have native MacOS builds? In my experience, Linux GUIs are generally written in Qt or GTK, both of which are multi-platform.I don’t doubt that they exist, I’m just struggling to think of a popular example.

Imustaskforhelp: Very interesting, can this run something like android using waydroid within Orbstack too?It would then essentially run android on macos as well, I do feel like it should be possible.

boschetto: I think there are many use cases for this software.For example, you may not want to run some graphical applications directly on your Mac for security, isolation or testing purposes.If this software turns out to be lower latency than RDP and CRD, I could also see it being very useful for accessing a remote graphical workstation (e.g.: running heavy software on an beefy machine in a data center instead of taking up resources on my skinny laptop).

OJFord: It's not necessarily something only available for Linux, but something that you want to containerise. (And then it's inherently running on Linux.)

audunw: Popular apps? Probably not many.But in the field of integrated circuit design there’s lots of apps that are Linux-only. I’ve tried to run some of them in containers on Mac. But XQuartz is awful.If they ever transitioned to Wayland perhaps this would let us run these apps on Mac in a nice way.On the other hand some of them have started getting ARM builds (for running simulations on certain cloud environments) so maybe native Mac GUI builds could happen someday soon.

xlmnxp: I want to use KDE Plasma instead of Mac OS ugly (in my opinion) interface

vovavili: This is possibly the first time in human history this opinion has been stated.

sersi: I mean Apple hasn't done itself any favours with Macos Tahoe.

jon-wood: This is very interesting to me for two reasons:1. I'd really like to run my development environment for things under Siri for its tiling window management but for better or worse I'm deeply embedded in the Apple ecosystem for everything else, this looks like it could be a really nice way of doing it (possibly once multi monitor support is in).2. There are still a few applications which have supported Linux builds but no support for macOS (Iridium's Niagara Workbench application for configuration of building management systems springs to mind here). Since Apple ended support for Quartz this has been a bit of a pain to deal with.

anArbitraryOne: Now if we could switch MacOS to use Win/Linux keyboard commands, MacOS wouldn't be so insufferable

p-e-w: I mean, you can simply use Linux and save yourself all those hacks…

ubercow13: Apart from just running Linux apps, you can use this to run graphical applications remotely on a Linux server, like X11 forwarding.

rick_dalton: Super key for most keybinds is much nicer than windows in my opinion, where it is entirely wasted on opening the start menu. On Linux it gains a few functions based on the desktop environment but not much.

anArbitraryOne: Absolutely. I went through great lengths to install Asahi on my work M1, only to have most things not work (RTFM). So when one is forced to use MacOS, may it round corners in hell, for work…

ubercow13: Maybe try this: https://ke-complex-modifications.pqrs.org/#pc_shortcuts

polshaw: I don't want KDE but I would much prefer gnome to macos desktop, I think it's both prettier and more functional, and that's not a tahoe thing. I hate finder too, and don't see any way to properly use an alternative.

jbverschoor: Perfect.. this will allow me to run GUI apps in a container.I did a similar thing with X11, but I didn't like so much.Bit by bit, Apple is loosing it's Desktop position. It all starts at the developers. At soon, every person will be a "developer".

IshKebab: Yeah I've used Karabiner to get windows-style shortcuts (home/end, etc.) and it works very well.

IshKebab: Neat, but wouldn't it be better to have the windows as "seamless"? I.e. not contained within another window.

Imustaskforhelp: To be honest, I agree a little bit because I remember from my time at customizing KDE that everyone wanted it to make it look like Mac OSbut it feels a bit of peer-pressure/cool-factor, people used to like how Mac OS look but after Tahoe, I feel like most people don't.To be honest, I am on mac right now but I really like Niri/Hyprland and to a degree KDE as well. I definitely feel like those were immensely more customizable and I miss that customizability, even if some people might use that customizability to make it look like MacOS default.

jurmous: Many of the keyboard commands are configurable in settings, complete with switching cmd and ctrl keys around. Or you can get used in a week or two when switching, this is what I did years ago and now for me Win/Linux is confusing and find the location of the command key more ergonomic on a Mac.Here some history on how the command key came to be https://www.folklore.org/Swedish_Campground.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_key

layer8: Similar opinions are stated in about every recent macOS UI thread, and even occasionally in Windows threads.

layer8: The use of the Windows key extends far beyond the start menu. Builtin functions include window management, invoking programs on the taskbar, locking the computer, invoking Explorer and Settings, invoking and controlling accessibility functions like Magnifier. The Microsoft Power Toys add a lot of functions using the Windows key by default as well, like screen snipping, screen OCR, color picking, enhanced clipboard, and many more.

SuperManifolds: Incredibly L take. macOS keyboard commands are great for working in the terminal since system shortcuts use a different key and don't interfere with control codes

daveidol: That’s still like 10 uses vs unlimited uses on macOS