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Claude.ai down

dgrin91: Getting only one 9 on a major tech provider that is suppose to be one of the flagship AI companies. That paints a picture hard to ignore.

avaer: It says more about capitalism than it says about flagship AI companies, because they're still around.

causal: World: What's your uptime?Anthropic: 9.World: 9 nines? That's awesome!Anthropic: No, a singular 9. 90-something percent uptime.

schmookeeg: I got 2 500s and quickly popped over to codex since I was just doing documentation and planning work and didn't neeeeeeed claude. He's already back for me. :)To another's point, yeah, it's sad that Claude taking a brief hiatus just halts workflow. I imagine my whole team just started packing for a beach trip. Then again, I suppose if the CPA office computers go down, everyone doesn't dust off giant ledgers and quill pens and start working manually.

gordonhart: The big difference is the number of 9s you get from LLM APIs versus your CPA office computers. Building a business around something with 0-2 nines is a nightmare.

ai4mathlogicrsn: Claude.ai is down… Powered by Atlassian StatusPage. SaaS is dead, but even Anthropic needs SaaS!

Imustaskforhelp: Agree with your statement overall but to be honest, status pages are the only SaaS which might make sense. For example, some hosting providers themselves who sell VPS etc. won't run their own website in their VPS and I asked one of the providers why and they mentioned because if they do and the servers go down, their website would 404 too, so they host on other infra in a sense for better redundancy.Isn't there a thought here that you don't host your status page on your infra itself, and if for example they are using hetzner etc. and hosting their own vibe coded one, then they might need an engineer so might as well have Saas whose whole job is this.I could've maybe recommended one of those status software[0] which actually runs on github actions but github themselves seem to have some downtime :p[0]: https://github.com/upptime/upptime (for anyone interested)

akudamono: LLM API still works for sonnet 4.5

rvz: Well it just tells you that Anthropic will experience repeated outages on their managed solutions. How can they can even begin to compete against everyone on with their products with their atrocious uptime? It's just as bad as GitHub's uptime circus.There are just some things you should not vibe code your way out of.

walthamstow: There's a decent chance on any given weekday that Claude will go down when US Pacific comes online while London is still working. It happens all the time.

airstrike: [delayed]

wg0: If someone's limit is remaining and they can't use it due to outages, shouldn't they be compensated for that?

avaer: Pretty sure the TOS you signed away your rights with says no.

ai4mathlogicrsn: The future of vibecoded software with code nobody understands is 1 9.They’ll need Claude to fix it during an outage, but Claude is down too!

brenoRibeiro706: It’s strange to think that we’re so dependent on these tools that we can’t function until they’re back to normal

p1esk: This is true in many industries. Try to build a house without tools.

nurettin: With mythos, all you need will be 0.9%

SunshineTheCat: Try going a day or two without being in any way connected to the internet.

utopiah: I honestly recommend doing so at least once per year. It's genuinely useful to notice which dependency you have and, if you want, find fallbacks.

burlesona: The thing about status pages is they have to be up when you're down, and (if your service is non trivial) they have to be able to handle a traffic profile that basically looks like DDOS. So, you're paying for the hosting infra more than the software.

faangguyindia: when you are funded by investment money, you don't need to care much about these things.

utopiah: Even stranger when they arguably don't function reliably even when it's "normal".

vadansky: I want to like Claude but I keep having to pop over to codex and I feel at some point I'll stop starting with Claude and just use Codex from the start.

mjr00: This is fundamentally the argument against all "SaaS is dead due to AI" claims.Replicating the basic functionality for most SaaS is trivial, it's the "everything else" part that you're actually paying for.

Gagarin1917: Nah even the trivial part is too much for most businesses to do themselves.Most companies aren’t going to opt for a bespoke solution to things if something tried and true already exists. Maybe the really small simple applications will be affected, but the ones with hundreds of features and years of experience will be fine.

Sharlin: Yeah, completely analogous. Physical tools aren't subscription-based and prone to outages. Except when they are, but that's – luckily – still something that people feel strongly negative about.And if my IDE or compiler (or computer!) stopped working because it requires a connection to the mothership I'd be livid. But I guess the cloud-everything, subscription-everything model has successfully made people accept an objectively worse world.

philipallstar: That's why AI isn't really a tool here. You can buy a new drill. If you replace all your house builders with a house factory then you're utterly reliant on the company that makes the factory.

Aurornis: AI coding assistants haven’t been available for very long. If someone forgot how to write code manually already then they have bigger problems.I don’t think the house factory analogy makes sense for multiple reasons. I subscribe to multiple LLM providers and switch between them all day. I could sign up for a dozen more to provide GLM 5.1 if I wanted to as well. I can even run lesser models locally on my machine.This is nothing like a single factory because I can switch to a new provider in minutes with a credit card.

strongpigeon: I have to say, I do respect Anthropic's honesty for their status page. Most service provider seem allergic to declaring an outage...It is a weird thing to respect come to think of it... Having an accurate status page should be the baseline, but that's the world we live in.

MeetingsBrowser: To be fair, the status page tends to lag by thirty minutes to an hour.And I’ve experienced 500 error codes in Claude code that lasted more than thirty minutes but less than an hour that never showed up on the status page as an outage

m3kw9: Most service provider provides outage status page.

mbgerring: I wonder how long it will take the software industry to re-learn the 2010s lesson, that basing your entire business on (and in this case, firing half of your employees and replacing them with) another company’s API is a bad business decision

santoshalper: I am not sure how many people learned it the first time. To be fair, it's really hard to build a business without major dependencies. The key is to assume they will fail and have alternatives available.

consumer451: Opus 4.6 1M was giving me 500s for around five minutes.I took the time to stand up and do some stretching. Good use of time.

saltyoldman: I've been actively using through all 55 minutes this thread has existed (and an hour before).

coprophage: I love that this has become my competition in the job marketyall hilariousneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

ValentineC: Even AWS's outages were caused by engineers overrelying on AI:https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/03/after-outages-amazon-to-m...

gonzalohm: Or you can code without AI you know? If the company that makes the factory goes down you can fall back to the previous method.

recursive: The claim is that some people have deskilled so rapidly that they actually can't. Or maybe they're new and never learned the old way.

robotresearcher: SaaS contracts sometimes provide things in addition to software, such as a compliance with regulations. Even the large software companies use stuff like SAP to handle the boring complexities of business life.

nunodonato: we have a big dependency on AI, both for developers (can survive without it, mostly habits) and internal workflows (very hard to go without it). So we decided to unplug from cloud AI, rent our own GPU and use an open model for both scenarios. We have been very happy with it so far, 60% cheaper and around 50% faster

scottyah: Faster in what way? All the open models we have access to at work are very noticeably behind the frontier models to the point where it's usually faster to not use them at all.

recursive: And how many of those status pages actually report outages when they occur?

cortesoft: What makes you say it is a bad business decision? It seems to be a fine decision to make for things like AWS, since when it goes down, a ton of websites go down and no one blames the site.There is no way to know whether it is a good or bad business decision just because they can go down when a third party goes down. For example, if you save $50 million a year by firing half your employees and replacing them with AI, but you lose $10 million a year because your site goes down when Claude goes down, then you made a great business decision.

iugtmkbdfil834: Oddly, I do not think you are wrong. In a pure money calculus exercise, this seems like a no brainer. Naturally, the math gets iffy the moment we are trying to capture something less tangible like 'customer may get sufficiently annoyed to drop us altogether' or 'we are no longer a respected company' or what MBAs would call 'unexpected goodwill extraction'.I honestly don't care nearly as much as I used to, because I used to be more upset over this. Now, I simply wait to see how much is enough to rile up average Joe and Jenna.

Ancalagon: They really gotta get this Mythos guy to work on their reliability. I heard he was a Genius.

skywhopper: It’s fine. I used up my weekly quota four days ago anyway.

d0100: GPT 5.4 is working pretty well for me, both in Copilot and Codex vscode extensionsIf you create a plan it follows it closely

dilyevsky: Lots of companies did that moving to cloud in 10s and it was generally a positive

binyu: Frontier models being in the hands of a handful companies does not help either. Let's hope that the open weight movement changes that soon.

kristianc: If it goes as well as the 'open' / federated social network alternatives of the 2010s, I wouldn't count on it.

amarant: Social networks are 100% network effect. AI models are not really effected by that at all.Which doesn't mean the open models will definitely succeed, it just means they have more of a shot than the open social networks ever did