Discussion
logicprog: This is genuinely great. I love the focus and attitude (but of course I do). I might actually use this to keep tabs on things.
cookiengineer: Nitpick: MacOS wasn't released first, OS/2 was. Apple System 1, however, was released the earliest.
karlgkk: front page has racial slurs, a link to goatse, and something crass about trans women. fantastic work /s
anonnona8878: I am going to be adding opinions (OpEds) from myself and guest writers around cultural decay, the decline of the internet, tech news etc. I do not want to make another reddit. I do not want to make another infinite scroll. I do not plan on making money from this. I'll take the hit. The internet is dying, at least I can try and help us before it's completely gone.
arctic-true: What is it that makes all these vibe coded websites use the same font? Is there no way to change it?
Lammy: Kirk Johnson is eternal and his butthole deserves to be seen(I still have the full 30-something-image set saved from Usenet lol)
add-sub-mul-div: This is almost hopeful in that it softens my lamentation that we're losing a whole generation of engineering labor to AI. It makes me realize that much of it was going to be wasted regardless.
anonnona8878: This is 100% true. It's fucking brutal and depressing. But genie is out of the bottle now. Ill was born 1985. It's over.
defrost: Nitpick: The "Light Speed Equiv" of the "Voyager 1 Progress Tracker" appears meaningless
anonnona8878: Thanks I'll kill it. you're right.
fc417fc802: Generally fantastic.Critique: The summaries, while amusing, all seem to end partway through on an ellipsis. Why aren't the chaos index signals clickable?
john_strinlai: >(I still have the full 30-something-image set saved from Usenet lol)i dont think someone could pay me enough to brag about this, but i love it for you.
tl2do: I am Japanese. I want to share a well-known Japanese idea: 人は見た目が9割 ("people are judged 90% by appearance"). It is ironic because it goes against our common sense that substance should matter more than appearance. The intention of this idea is to emphasize the importance of first impressions.I think the AIDMA model is still relevant. I've seen similar dashboards elsewhere, but FUBAR Daily's design keeps me coming back.Nice work.
eclectric: The sad part that I think about is this cannot be explained meaningfully to most unsuspecting people.
Lerc: Perhaps it is because I am from a different generation, but I cannot understand what the post you replied even meant.It makes your response that it cannot be explained meaningfully to most unsuspecting people a little intriguing. Can you try and explain? Perhaps I won't understand, but I feel some of the problem is in the absence of signal.
BLKNSLVR: It's been lost to Advertising for the longest time already.Change is as good as a holiday?
ceroxylon: Hallucinations galore, the 'daily digest' provided me with this gem: "Apple's supposedly revolutionary $1,199 MacBook Neo is getting schooled by $500 Windows machines that do basically the same thing without the premium"There is no way to build a Macbook Neo for $1,199 and this is obviously snarky, auto-generated slop.
anonnona8878: Appreciate that. Is there an English term to search for and read up on 人は見た目が9割 ? I'd like to learn more about it.
tl2do: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/人は見た目が9割It is mainly from a bestseller book. You could get hint from this.
balamatom: How's it help?
balamatom: Explanation: An absence of signal is now the norm. People get automatically creeped out when you attempt communiction grounded in baseline reality, because everyone is trapped in whatever infinitely precarious illusory mode of being they've been conditioned into by their personal-area network.If you so much as attempt metacommunication, such as "sup, our capacity for maintaining technical knowledge seems to be disrupted, what's that about" many people will immediately get offended "for no reason"; all their life it's been expected of them to perform competence - which LLMs are now the socially accepted crutch for! - rather than to cultivate understanding, and they're ready to sacrifice everything in the name of that way of life, starting with you. Sometimes you can linguistically triple-quote your way out of their grasp, but as the domain of organization of knowledge work follows more the laws of unreason than those of physics, this is not always possibe.See also, that "void" thing zoomers rep a lot. Among other things, it's the sense of an irreconcilable disconnect between the human animal which desires to live, and the quasi-rational economic agent which the designs of societal affordances only ever permit one to be. So, someone took the volitionary component which is key to reconciling the two, and dropped it down some infinitely deep hole for us. That's the vibe.
throwaway290: > The internet is dying, at least I can try and helpand you're using LLMs for the content...
ge96: What about the man transforming into a horse, classic
realityfactchex: I'll give it a shot for ya. Parent, GP, GGP, GGGP, OP, or anyone else can feel feel to correct mistakes, please.Original Post (OP): A post linking to https://www.fubardaily.com/ which is "Curated slop to enjoy with your morning coffee. Updated daily." Apparently a sort of "Drudge Report" or "Dashboard of news/posts".--> OP MEANING DECODED: There's a big amount of "crappy stories" that a) purport to show "how crappy/dismal things are", probably b) with a healthy amout of "fake stories, or performative artifice, etc."Great Great Grandparent (GGGP) post said, "front page has racial slurs, a link to goatse, and something crass about trans women. fantastic work /s"--> GGGP MEANING DECODED: Even the "slop" the OP indexes daily has old-school shennanigans that perennially (every year for decades or forever) are sort of "shock value" or "jarring" things, and in a sense this is refreshing, since those kinds of concerns/topics are worth caring about and relatable or important. (But the GP admits they were being sarcastic. So, really they are saying, the OP's link is a pointless page and a waste to look at.)Great Grandparent (GGP) post said, "This is almost hopeful in that it softens my lamentation that we're losing a whole generation of engineering labor to AI. It makes me realize that much of it was going to be wasted regardless."--> GGP MEANING DECODED: The points out that sometimes they as saddened that AI "takes the engineering out of engineering. For example, instead of designing and specifying out and making a thing, an engineer can, now, legitimately, sit down and type "Make a high level design for _____. Ok, now spec it out. Ok, now make it.". The GP sees LLMs and agents as as "taking the engineering out of engineering" since much its rote aspects can be externalized. The GP sees this as a concern, because they imagine that an ENTIRE GENERATION of engineers may learn to "ask a machine to do things for them" that once required knowledge of those things. (Note 1: you can trace this back to "learn C", then back to "learn assembly", then to "learn vacuum tubes", etc.; the lamentation of losing "necessary awareness of how systems work on a fundamental level" is not now. Note 2: it is not unique to software engineering, since as a ____ engineer you may now "draw a thing" but "someone in X country/company will actually make it for you" (outsourcing, again, externalizing "actual" engineering/production). In any case, even if "some people" still know how things work, and design and make those systems, the LABOR MARKET in which people "are paid to do things" could nearly evaporate, and this raises very real concerns or worries of the existential type (very much of the paying for food and shelter in the near future type, or the having a prosperous family ever type). Finally, the GP comes around to heir point that THE THINGS WE PAY PEOPLE TO ENGINEER ARE STUPID THINGS BY AND LARGE ANYWAY, SO IT IS OK TO WIPE OUT THIS LABOR, IT'S A WASTE, WHO CARES IF IT EVAPORATES. While this may sound like nihilism, there is an unwritten portion, which could say, AND MAYBE AT LEAST THIS PASSING OF EVENTS/EVOLUTION IN TECHNOLOGY WILL CONTINUE TO FORCE US TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT IS VALUABLE, AND WHAT TO BUILD AND HOW TO MAKE ACTUAL, FUNCTIONAL, SYSTEMS, AND PUSH IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET WHERE WE WANT TO BE.Grandparent (GP) says, "This is 100% true. It's fucking brutal and depressing. But genie is out of the bottle now. Ill was born 1985. It's over."--> GRANDPARENT MEANING DECODED: Oh yeah, GGP is correct and nails it. And this realization is tough to process and handle. There's no going back, I know it because I have seen some things evolve in my half-life. The way the world once was (what felt like plentiful work of at least some modicum of utility and meaningfulness with truly pleasant human interactions and products and services rendered) is going the way of the dodo (ain't want it used to be and ain't coming back).Parent says,--> PARENT MEANING DECODED: I also concur with GGP. Furthermore, many people are too young to know how good it once was, what we had, saw, and experienced, what embodied and encompassed that all. And furthermore, young people process media in a different way than us for the most part and do so with less context, and mostly may never gain access to knowing what's going on right now and has been or is still in a process of being being lost. And there is an entirely different set of people, who are of our generation, but are totally disconnected from either the white-collar working world, or from the semi-technical fields, and they too have nothing like a grasp on what is occurring and seems destined to continue down an inevitable path of removing meaning from labor, as well as removing the opportunity for much meaningful labor of the types we have known in the past or currently. It is possible to intellectualize and describe painstakingly some or all aspects of these concerns, but most such expressions will be unprocessed by any meaningful proportion of people, for they lack the attention span, or interest, or context for understanding either these facts or their importance to some people.Note: Cogntive biases appearing heavily above include "declinism", "in those good old days", "rosy retrospect", "conservatism", etc.NOTE: These are NOT my views, I am just trying to "translate" the chain for the post immediately above.
anonnona8878: ahahahahhahahahahah ohhhhhhh hhahahgaahhaah
anonnona8878: Relish in it. The whole point is to watch it crumble. On itself. Human writing coming soon.
ceroxylon: engagement bot on overdrive
RGamma: Mind sending these to me? I didn't even know there is more than one until now! ze0k1t3b@mailer.me
Lammy: Sent — enjoy!
RGamma: [delayed]
pocksuppet: Why did he post his butthole to Usenet?
fc417fc802: The linked article seems to suggest that rather than "appearance" what's actually meant is "anything non-verbal"? In which case the related english language thing to look for is writings on the importance of the non-verbal aspects of communication, of which there are a lot.
AdamN: I love how share just instantly copies the URL - so refreshingly easy and fast.
8bitsrule: Damn ... I'll be so glad when all this trendy shit goes away.
rf15: ...have you checked the linked page translation, it's just a page on the concept of physical appearance...
fc417fc802: Yes. I do not understand how an article about physical appearance meaningfully benefits from a nude photo. I thus find myself wondering if the machine translation perhaps lost some important nuance.
1e1a: This is great.Feedback: It looks like geolocation for anonymous "FUBARS" is based on IP, but the weather widget uses the browser geolocation API.
LargoLasskhyfv: In german: Kleider machen Leute. (Clothing makes people(literally, word by word))
vanillameow: This is a project where I actually kind of like the idea, but the implementation looks incredibly soulless.
itomato: It really is slop isn’t it.
SideburnsOfDoom: [delayed]
cc-d: Thank you for sharing your chinese, it's nice to see some non-anglo on hackernews
xtiansimon: I visit HN from RSS feed. Articles are listed on my feed, but I have to click through to really read anything-—there is no summary in the RSS feed.So I could visit HN directly and prolly save a step. But in truth, I like having one place to go. And here I’ve collected and curated all the places I like to visit. And I find it much better than using bookmarks.Which is all a lot to say that I’d be more likely to return to visit this site if it had an RSS feed.Obviously, part of the charm of the site is the telemetry and data widgety bits (weather, stock ticker) which are mixed in with newsy and fun bits (I love the quotes). But I can tell you with all honesty, if I make a bookmark for this site, it’s going into a sea of links.RSS isn’t just for consuming site data without dealing with the design cruff. It’s also good as a bookmark.
anonnona8878: I'll add an RSS feed to the site. Thanks for the feedback. It's kind of MVP at the moment, it's slowly turning into something. I need to add original written content which I will add, just getting the bones in place.
Lammy: I imagine some sort of intersection between https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibitionism and https://toothpastefordinner.com/051810
Mistletoe: I’m 100% certain that killing the internet would be a greater good for society.
throwaway290: why are you sure?
Mistletoe: I’ve just been watching how the earth is turning out since the normal people got online. Eternal September forever.
