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Australia to crack down on gambling ads after years of criticism
babaliauskas: Bold move limiting gambling ads to just three per hour. Next up light-touch bans on cigarettes where you can only smoke during ad breaks.
angry_octet: The ability for Sportsbet to deluge your feed with gambling remains unhindered. Their TikTok/Instagram ads are clever and unrelenting.As a consequence there is a quiet crisis in young people, 18-30, deeply in debt, working second and third jobs so that they have a bit more money to gamble.
suprjami: I'd strongly support a year-based ban on cigarette purchases.Set the purchase birth year to the current age 18. So DOB 2008 if done today, if you're born 2009 or later you can't buy smokes at all ever.Within two generations we'd largely eliminate smoking. Within three cigarettes would be amongst impossible to get. Great public health initiative.
mrguyorama: The UK is supposedly doing exactly this. As are a few other places.
brotchie: Gambling ads are to Australian what Pharmaceutical ads are to the USA.
amarcheschi: I'm from italy where we have a ban.Some companies now make advertisements of news websites that it is clear are also part of a betting companies. For example, https://www.admiralbet.news/ has as other Google result the betting website. However, I do have to say it is still less than before and it's much better
Hikikomori: Let's hope that they don't burn someone else's house.https://youtu.be/ZI3zaHUsgXghttps://youtu.be/jZivPIRvi0U
asdff: Why stop there? Government mandated fitness programs too. Government meals. Calories in and out perfectly controlled by government scientists. Start getting over weight your food ration is cut and you have double duty in the fitness camp. Caught with illegal unaccounted for food? Straight to jail. Obesity solved in probably 6 months. Trillions saved in healthcare costs and hundreds of millions of early deaths avoided.
andrewstuart: Seatbelts, speed limits, laws against property and personal crime, workplace safety regulations,All government overreach, eh?
asdff: Admittedly, I'm not arguing it any one way or another. I'm just presenting what I think is perhaps an interesting argument that highlights how the whole concept is somewhat arbitrary and ambiguous, resting more on ones personal moral positions towards a thing in particular than any real underlying logical justification shared across similar concepts.
amarcheschi: Smoking affects surrounding people much more than the above
asdff: Obesity does too. You are consuming sometimes twice as many calories as what is needed to survive. You put strain on medical facilities as well, and increase pooled costs of healthcare. Same social ills a smoker puts on you. Second hand smoke isn't really a thing anymore with indoor smoking bans.
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NamTaf: Finally.The deluge of gambling ads on TV during Friday night footy is absolutely appalling. There’s a very robust conduit for normalising sports gambling through advertisements around the broadcasts and it’s clearly influencing young adults. I’ve noticed a dramatic uptick in how common it is compared to when I was that age.
awesome_dude: The ads are going to continue from 8:30pm on, NRL has a game starting at 8pm this evening, the gambling ads will hit just before half time under this new legislation
awesome_dude: People that consume more are carbon sinks...How ludicrous is this argument going to get?
toast0: NZ tried that cigarette ban, but walked it back so they could get juicy tax revenues. https://lite.cnn.com/2023/11/28/asia/new-zealand-smoking-ban...Maybe split the difference and raise the purchasing age for cigarettes 6 months every year. Takes longer to get to nobody can smoke, but you'll get there eventually.
awesome_dude: The (NZ) government that changed the approach is heavily loaded with Tobacco friendly Ministers - the expectation is that when the government is voted out (no government lasts forever) the age based approach will be bought back in.
Apreche: > "Today it's gambling advertising, tomorrow it's alcohol, then it's sugary drinks, fast food, critical minerals and who knows what else comes next," chief executive Kai Cantwell said.We have already learned our lesson. Prohibition doesn’t work. But advertising does work. Banning advertising also works. We should allow people the freedom to participate in vice, but ban all advertising for it. Anything harmful to society should not be advertised. No ads for cars, guns, recreational drugs including alcohol, unhealthy food, fossil fuels, or gambling.Who knows what comes next Kai? Hopefully everything.
squigz: Would you support the same ban for alcohol?
smelendez: US has gone to a minimum age of 21. I actually think that’s enough, along with raising the price and reducing the number of places people can smoke.People generally start smoking by their teens or not at all. Making it hard for kids to get exposed to nicotine will stop a lot of addiction.Also way fewer parents have cigarettes in the house so it’s harder for kids to grab them at home. And there are pretty strong taboos nowadays about giving random kids stuff they’re not supposed to have.
clickety_clack: Ireland needs this. I don’t live there anymore, but the amount of ads literally everywhere you go there these days is insane.Gambling ruins lives.