Discussion
Apple keeps challenging its interoperability obligations under the DMA
u_sama: Not surprised, I can't still install any app I want on an iPhone despite the DMA/DSA Acts pushing clearly in that direction
actionfromafar: Is anyone surprised? I suppose Apple will care when a lot of money is extracted from their bank account.
pjc50: Disappointed but not surprised. Their intent is not to comply, so you'll have to sue them at every step for every atom of compliance.
nazgu1: I wonder how it is that we, as the users, allow it when iOS started allowing third-party. After that we accepted that macOS is more and more closed platform. And I'm hearing constantly something like "Yes, that's wrong, but at least platform is secure". For me security is less about how much platform is closed and more about how educated users are.On the side note that is interesting, that when first iOS version was released Apple talked that "PWA" will be the future, and nowadays Apple do everything to suppress PWA ;)
Lerc: TLA overload strikes again.Reading this after a day of fighting microcontrollers made me interpret the headline quite differently.Ignoring DMA requests and contradictory documentation sounded entirely on point.
Luker88: It's not about being surprised, is about finally having proof and being able to go to the lawmakers with something concrete.Apple could initially dismiss this as "doomsayers that talk about unreal future". Now this is proof.Let's not dismiss this ourselves.This is "I told you so", not "breaking news: nobody expected this!".
Namidairo: I too honestly thought that this was going to be a deep dive on the M-series PCIe controller or something similar.
inetknght: > I wonder how it is that we, as the users, allow itIt's not like we have a choice. Either allow it or... what? Buy a different computer? With what money? Spend time installing a new OS? With what time? And for most users: with what skills?So long as businesses make choices about the devices you own, you don't really have a choice about "allowing" it to happen.
intothemild: I wonder how much this will change now that Tim Apple, is out and John Apple is in. (probably none)
benoau: The status quo is insanely profitable for Apple and Cook is still going to be "engaging with policymakers around the world" so I don't think they'll deviate from malicious compliance and stalling tactics any time soon.The perjury, contempt and referral for criminal investigation in the US carried no consequence, Japan and Brazil's regulations have been undermined by massive fees, as has the EU but they're afraid to fine them because of Trump. Except for the possibility of a $38 billion fine in India this strategy has been very successful for Apple: it's 5 years since the US ruled developers could use third party payments, 3 years since the DMA came into effect, and nothing has changed.
jeroenhd: DMA/DSA are all about fair competition, not necessarily about user freedom. They tackle the inability to compete with the App Store, not the inability to manage your own apps.
