Discussion
apfel
p1anecrazy: Really like demo cli tools description. Are they limited by the context window as well? What’s your experience with log file sizes?
khalic: AFM models are very impressive, but they’re not made for conversation, so keep your expectations down in chat mode.
elcritch: Any know if these only installed on Tahoe? I'm running Sequoia still and get an error about model not found.
HelloUsername: > Apple Silicon Mac, macOS 26 Tahoe or newer, Apple Intelligence enabled
swiftcoder: Anyone tried using this as a sub-agent for a more capable model like Claude/Codex?
gigatexal: It’s a very small model but I’ve been playing with it for some time now I’m impressed. Have we been sleeping on Apple’s models?Imagine they baked Qwen 3.5 level stuff into the OS. Wow that’d be cool.
franze: project started withtrying to run openclaw with it in ultra token saving mode, did totally not work.great for shell scripts though (my major use case now)
brians: I’ve seen several projects like this that offer a network server with access to these Apple models. The danger is when they expose that, even on a loop port, to every other application on your system, including the browser. Random webpages are now shipping with JavaScript that will post to that port. Same-origin restrictions will stop data flow back to the webpage, but that doesn’t stop them from issuing commands to make changes.Some such projects use CORS to allow read back as well. I haven’t read Apfel’s code yet, but I’m registering the experiment before performing it.
ramon156: Cool tool but I don't get why these websites make idiotic claims> $0 costNo kidding.Why not just link the GH Github: https://github.com/Arthur-Ficial/apfel
ffsm8: He did?https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47624647
stingraycharles: I don’t think many browsers will allow posting to 127.0.0.1 from a random website. What’s the threat model here?
brians: I think any browser will allow it but not allow data read back.
mememememememo: Isn't there a CORS preflight check for this? In most cases. I guess you could fashion an OG form to post form fields. But openai is probably a JSON body only.
brians: They offer it as an option but default it to false! This is still a --footgun option but it’s the least unsafe version I’ve seen yet! Well done, Apfel authors.
